[sportbikebandit]

Think this boot camp thing is too expensive and too nice. Put people in jail the night they get caught for at least a night. Then if convicted they get jail time and no license for a year.... In Seattle a city judge spent no time in jail got a nice ride home to her multi-million dollar residence.

 

[sportbikebandit]

I agree. Put them in real jail. Boot camp is too nice for them..

 

[Chango]

Don't forget the drive-through windows...

 

[49245]

I don't know what the answer is to drunk driving. On the one hand our country has done a pretty good job of letting everyone know that when you are drunk behind the wheel you are more dangerous. But on the other hand (similar to the parking lot issue) I can't think of one major event that I enjoy that isnt sponsored by a company that produces beer or liquor. Concerts....sports...even the last few years of the gay pride parade in chicago was sponsored by miller lite. We equate being drunk with "good times" and "relaxing".



If we really want to get rid of drinking and driving our entire system would need to be changed. I dont think most bars or restaurants would make it if everyone drank one serving per hour. The messages we send are muddled.

 

[paul_from_Minnesota]

Good for you if you read down this far.



A former brother-in-law of mine serves in the National Guard. As part of some cross training, he spent some time in a Scandinavian country. He said those boys over there drank as hard as anyone he has ever met. However the penalties for dinking and driving were very severe. I believe if you were caught you simply lost your driving "privilage" for life. Period. End of story. Well, consequently, no one even thought of driving drunk. Because of the severity of it, rides were always in place before the party started. It was just natural. Maybe we could learn something here.



And hey, what a concept! Make descisions before taking/drinking something that specifically impairs your judgement...

 

[longride]

Up for an epic battle are ya JB?

 

[concourse]

I think this idea is awsome. If you are stupid enough to do this then you deserve what you get. I can't think of how many kids lives have ended earley because someone convicted of multiple count 's of DWI stikes again. If you want to drink and drive there is a new penalty. But we don't want to inconvienience someone with a drinking problem. Im sure the Libereral's will be up in arms about this one.

 

[seruzawa]

Calling BMWVWW

Are you reading this thread Van? Do you see how far we have sunk as a free nation?

When they hand out the slave collars these guys will line up for them.

 

[jonsen]

In Norway the punishment is 2 years loss of driving license, one months pay in fine (amount pre tax) (so if your'e well paid its a lot of money). This is for breaking the 0.2% limit. Exceed 0.5% and also spend three weeks in jail.



We norwegians do drink (a lot) at bars, but wery few people dring & drive. Those who do are usually people who have an alcohol problem/adiction.

 

[sarnali]

Most of your average middle age out of shape drinking drivers wouldn't have to worry about it for long, they'd have a coronary and keel over within a week.



I think drunk driving should be a felony myself, along the lines of aggrivated assault and subject to the three strikes law.

 

[sarnali]

Re: impound the car, force them to walk home

I agree, confiscate the car and auction it off to pay for the cost of prosicution. No plea bargains, no "my spouse needs the car for work". ***** 'em up the ass, if they want to jepordize my life and the lives of everyone around them they can buy a bicycle or ride the bus.

 

[sarnali]

The guy that hit me on my Trophy was on a suspended license. License suspension is a joke, do you really think it's going to stop some selfish ***** from driving?



The answer is to confiscate the vehicale and sell it. They do property siezures for drug trafficing, why not drunk driving? If you want get drunk then stay home or use a designated driver or call a cab. A glass of wine or a drink with dinner isn't going to get you a dui, anymore than that and you don't belong on the road.

 

[sarnali]

Re: Calling BMWVWW

Well there you are, I thought you gave up on this. Were you busy pushing the Suzuki home or something?

 

[52944]

What about driving sober? then? why is that acceptible? that is doing something that threatens to harm others... why is it ok ? who drew this line?



- just pointing out your logic is pretty flawed as it would put driving on the unacceptible side of your line...

 

[sportbikebandit]

Excellent Point

I like your idea better sarnali thanks...

 

[23020]

Said lanes would need guardrails on both sides

and an automatic sweeper to clean up the mess after an accident, so the rest of us wouldn't have to deal with it.

 

[23020]

The system sucks

I went to traffic court for speeding over 100 mph, of which I pleaded guilty to and apologized to the court. Despite my very clean record, I was fined 1g, got two points on my license, and have to attend a stage 3 traffic school.

The guy that went before the judge before me crossed the red light and caused someone's DEATH as a result -- fine: $135 (reduced from $350 without even asking).

SHeeeeeeeeyIIIT!

 

[47837]

That's why driving isn't a RIGHT and why you are required to be licensed.

 

[conchscooter]

As with all crimes comitted in this country there is a strong emphasis on the severity of the punishment. Politicans line up to vote for mandatory this and that every time a crime makes the headlines. While this post sounds like an urban legend in the making (the boot camps "in Europe or somewhere") I believe crimes are reduced by a strong police presence. Criminals aren't concerned with the level of the punishment; they are more likely to be put off by the presence of an officer. Do you try speeding when you see an officer in your mirrors?

 

[seruzawa]

Re: Calling BMWVWW

It got too boring seeing the same sheeple spend too many bytes justifying their greed-based need to override other people's right to self-determination.

I'm in SoCal doing fun things. The bike sure wheelies easily at sea level compared to the usual 4500-10000 ft altitudes I'm used to.

The gas formulation really sucks though. I lost power after the first fillup of SoCal gas compred to the stuff I had in the tank from Utah. How do SoCal people stand it?