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Could this mean...gasp...cheap Harley knock-off made in China?



And it's not "high octane" KP, it's high displacement.
 

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It's a drop in the bucket when you look at our trade deficit with China but it's a start. If China lets their currency float (right now it's pegged at a fixed rate) then the dollar could fall relative to the Chinese and make our exports more attractive to the Chinese consumer.

I am sure H-D could accelerate the acceptance of their bikes i.e. minus the tariffs, if it allowed a Chinese manufacturer to build parts of the bike. Boeing did this with the 7E7 in Japan, Korea, China, etc (only 35% of the plane will be made in the U.S.)
 

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Wow, I only read this story about 6 months ago.



I always cringe whenever I see a non-motorcyclist reporter write any kind of story on anything to do with motorcycles. Case in point, this one credits Harley's popularity to Easy Rider, which is more than a bit of a stretch. I would argue that "Terminator 2" had a much larger effect on their image to the general public.



 

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Don't you have to use the premium stuff on Kawi sport bikes given their compression ratios?

How much does that drive up cost of ownership over the course of a year? Especially with these awful gas prices...

Here in SoCal, premium costs 20-30 cents more per gallon (sometimes more) and I figure if you ride a lot, that adds up to quite a bit.

It really sucks that when you go to put in 4 gallons of gas it costs about $10.
 

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Nope. I'm a T2 generation guy, and I would still give more credit to Easy Rider. If for no other reason because of the imagery promoted by easy rider. Most of us T2 gen guys are more into supersports and "custom choppers."
 

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YZF 600? Sweet. Seing as that the Kpaul era ninja is now the ZZR 600 and falls into the same category of the still sold YZF 600, maybe a little comparo of the two bikes, inclusive of cost of ownership may be a good idea. What could we call it? Real World Supersports? Please give me your feedback.
 

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Re: Cut and paste thing.

I've got an HD and a Honda. The HD will knock in traffic and heat, while the Honda is happy. Main reason is that the Honda is liquid cooled, and oil-cooled. The HD is air-cooled. No movement = no air = really hot = pre-detonation = knock. The high octane is an attempt to keep the pre-detonation under control.
 

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It's gotta be "Easy Rider". Ah yes! The wind in your hair! The carefree life of heroin dealers who are stupid enough to risk VD in a commune and then ride through the heart of 60's KKK territory on choppers with long hair. That's what I wanna be!



I'm not sure that that image will play so well in China. But with China's rapidly expanding wealthy class there'll be plenty of people who will want a Harley if merely as a symbol of conspicuous consumption.



It doesn't matter how we perceive Harley's. It only matter how the Chinese perceive Harley's. I'd bet HD would sell a fair number.
 

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Dude..

Can you put that italiant article back up on the front page? I'd rather look at a pretty motorcycle than those Gawk Awful leathers.

Seriously... I feel like I stumbled into the Blue Oyster everytime I pull up the home page.
 

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If MO will schedule track time and pay for my gas and meals I will gladly come out there and race my yzf against kpaul's zx at Willows, either track. Of course Sean can get ninja 500 and whoop on both of us.
 
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