I agree. I bought a Yamaha Roadstar Silverado. They took a 12 year old Suzuki Intruder 1400 in trade with 70k on it and gave me 2800 for it. HD gave me looks like I insulted them when I asked about trading the Suzuki in on at Flhtcu. I'm sorry 8k in my pocket and a lot more time in the saddle rather than in the shop count for a lot more than resale value. You have to factor out the expense of down time and parts from HD's ego inflated pricing. Even still that doesn't cover the 8K I saved. Factor into this equasion that I put in 30k a year in the saddle in New England and it's a no brainer! When I'm done with a bike, it's worth a grand or 2 tops, I don't care who makes it.