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I will always wear a helmet, but I don't think we need Big Brother (or Big Sister down in Arkansas) making it the law. I don't buy that theory of helmetless bikers placing a burden on "Society". In my opinion we've got a lot of unnecessary laws because some legislators think they can create a utopia on Earth that way.
 

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***** on Helmet laws. If you want to wear a beanie then fine, do so. The government should stay out of this and most other things. We elect officials because we have a paradigm of doing so. It would be nice to have no government officials. Then nonsense laws affecting every facet of life wouldn't be made. Everytime someone is injured, an outcry comes from politicians hoping to get the limelight. How about a moratorium on new laws and an actual reversal of all unconstitutional drivel. Life would then be so sweet.
 

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Oh sure! Then what would happen? You know as well as I do that people are stupid (except, of course, for us intellectuals) and will use freedom to do wrong things like buy a powerboat or some other useless device that doesn't contribute to the public good. People must be protected from themselves and who better than me to set up a set of rules?



If we go your way the next thing we know people might have the right to speak or assemble or be secure in their homes or have the right to defend themselves or even be able to join whatever church they want.



If that happens we'll be in a right mess!
 

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Try it sometime. Pick a nice sunny day when you are just running down to the corner store, put on some safety glasses, hop on your bike and go. Its amazing, the sun on your face, wind in your hair, the reasons we ride to begin with. Before I get shot down in flames, Yes, I wear a helmet 99.9 percent of the time but every now and then am willing to forego a lid to enjoy the ride. I don't recomend go over about 40 without a helmet, bugs and rocks hurt, and would never go on a freeway without one, I have had rocks off trucks take sizable chips out of my helmet. That said, its a free country, people can do whatever they [email protected] well please as long as there only hurting themselves so what busness is it of mine, yours, or the government's if someone chooses to wear or not wear a helmet. Sorry for the rant.
 

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Nobody should be forced to wear a helmet. It is a free country and I don't buy that social burden theory.

Having said that, riding without one is plain stupid, there are too many ways to injury out there, waiting for a head to hit.
 

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The thought of preventing injuries is an admirable one but why is that motorcyclists are singled out? Some would argue that it is because morotcyclists often suffer severe head injuries and cost tax payers money. That then gives the government the right to intervene and force safety measures upon us. The trouble is, independent studies consistentlyshow that motorcyclists are just as well insured, if not more so than car drivers so when we are injured, we pay for it ourselves through higher premiums. There are some who will be injured and uninsured and yes, the public will end up paying for that and the amounts can be considerable. But the actual number of uninsured riders suffering these accidents compared to drivers is very small. Motorcyclists are just not the burden they are portrayed to be. Yes helmets prevent injuries on motorcyclists but the same could be said for drivers as well. That is why NASCAR drivers all wear them. If every driver and pasanger in America wore helmets you would see a far greater protection of life and a far greater reduction in the monetary burden that tax payers must bare. So, I say, if government wants to mandate helmets for motorcyclists, that is fine, but unless they do so for drivers as well, then their arguements for public safety and reduction of medical costs are hypocritical and discriminatory.
 

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I agree with the tone of this thread. The "burden on society" argument can be used to support almost any invasive legislation and should be resisted. I disagree with helmet laws for the same reason I disagree with seatbelt laws and other legistlation deemed to protect me from myself. I have ridden in South Carolina without a helmet and will never do that again. The difficulty is that as we allow more government intrusion into our lives, it becomes easier to tolerate increasing doses.
 

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This was pretty much exactly the point I was going to bring up. I bet non-helmeted cagers suffer more head injuries than helmeted cagers do, in accidents. Any Arkansas'n MOridians want to step up to the plate on this? My suggestion would be to get ahold of the freshman legislator that was against this bill, and suggest to him that he try and get language added to the bill requiring helmets for anything which allows travel faster than a walk.



Hey, it'd have a great side effect. If Mrs. Soccer Mommy was wearing a helmet while driving her Ford Behemoth, she couldn't talk on the cell phone, so maybe she'd pay some attention to the 6 ton beast she was piloting.



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Here in California I would argue that there is no helmet law. Many of the HD riders wear those little things that look like half a peanut shell. They qualify as real helmets, so much for the successful application of the law.These thing offer little to no protection.



I wear helmets, sportbike or cruiser because I want too. I want to be protected as much as possible. Anyone who believes helmets are not effective is an idiot. However, I do not believe we should force anyone to do anthing. Being stupid should not be illegal.



Most states force you to wear a seat belt in your car. I don' t see the difference between this and the helmet law. Being an ever evolving society we are willing to accept new ways of doing things that will enhance our lives or help protect us. I never wore seat belts years ago, who did? But the fact is in combination with air bag technology these things work to save lives, these fact are undeniable.



Bull riders are wearing chest protectors, some are wearing helmets. More and more snow skiers are wearing helmets.



The point is that most people in our society embrace things that will improve or protect their well being. As for the rest, "Stupid is as stupid does".
 

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"Being an ever evolving society we are willing to accept new ways of doing things that will enhance our lives or help protect us."



George Orwell couldn't have said it better. It just took longer than 1984.
 

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I'm not buying any of this "burdon to society" bull***** until I see some universal healthcare in this country. Since when did Arkansas (and the rest of the US) turn into Norway?? BTW I always wear a helmet, and since when does it take a genious to figure out that helmetless riders get hurt worse? geez
 

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Universal health care will never happen. I don't think I indicated that the burden argument was legit, it is not. I think we agree !



I agree with you, the "duh" factor clearly applies to wearing a helmet, but do not assume everybody gets it.



I love the argument that you should not wear a seat belt because if you were in a crash and the car cought fire your belt may malfunction trapping you in a burning car.



Everyone in sanctioned auto racing must be really dumb for wearing seat belts.
 

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Helmet laws are retarded-- if they don't want to act like a hypocrite, then perhaps they should make helmets mandatory for ALL vehicles. RV's (especially!), trucks, econoboxes, sports cars...



Law or no, you won't find me more than a block away from home without a full face helmet on. I don't need a politician who doesn't ride to tell me how I need to be doing it.
 

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What logic?

That we ride motorcycles (at all) is a given. Given that we ride motorcycles and accept the inherent risks, we are stupid and irresponsible when we ride them without a helmet. Making such behavior illegal is arguable. That the behavior is stupid and irresponsible is not.
 

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Sorry you don't buy the social burden theory, but you live in a democracy and you may or may not be outvoted by those who wish to avoid bearing your burden. Haven't you learned to live with that yet?
 

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A change of heart.

After reading all the posts, I have a change my mind on helmet laws. I used to support helmet laws in fact I wanted a full face helmet law. However, if the AMA would just neither support or oppose helmet laws it would be fine for me now. It is apparent that motorcyle riders love freedom i.e. probably one of the reasons we ride right. Also most folks think we are nuts anyway to ride motorcycles. So really if it doesn't affect my insurance rates, I am willing to live and let live. [*]I personally think folks are unwise to not wear a full face helmet. See David Hough's book Proficient Motorcycling for mention of a German study that studied full face vs other styles(click this)
 
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