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· The Toad
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Well, it makes sense. If people eat the wrong things they might get sick and then I might have to pick up part of the tab if they go on govt medical care. So, yes, the govt has a vested interest in enforcing proper dietary requirements on all Americans. Exercise programs too!



A perfect argument... and identical to the helmet law argument too!
 

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"We all know what would happen if we depended on personal ethics, though, don't we?"



Ummmm, since the govt is made up of people (news flash) you are still depending on personal ethics.
 

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You have me confused with an anarchist. I'm only saying that blind trust in govt is very foolish.



For example the EPA was coming after some of my relatives for someone else's illegal dumping of tires on their property in Wyoming. The EPA didn't care who the criminal was they just wanted the money from the landowners for cleanup. Fortunately there was a Wyoming health inspector who wrote a letter to the Feds that got my relatives off the hook. The EPA was worried about West Nile mosquitos. So that worked out, but it could have been nasty seeing these elderly retirees forced out of their homes by the Feds.



The city I live in gave a developer a waiver to put a smaller culvert in my neighborhood than required by law. Some of the homes had their basements flood with sewage as a result. The city tried to force the homeowners to pay to fix the problem. It turned out that the pol who forced the waiver was a relative of the developer.



In other areas criminal collusions between private companies and regulatory agencies are well documented. The revolving door between DOD and Defense contractors is one. The revolving door between the FDA and drug companies is another.



There are good people and bad people in everything. Mostly good people really. But only a fool places blind trust in anything. We're too quick to jump to more legislation in this country. In dealing with the govt you are still relying on the personal ethics of the govt employees.



And to answer your question I have occasionally talked to my State Rep and Senator about various issues. No, I don't just sit on my @ss and complain. I troop up to the Statehouse and complain too!
 

· The Toad
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Whoa. Now everyone who isn't an anarchist is automatically a coward? You wanna compare DD214s?



Actually, I understand the theory of anarchy and in many ways it's very tempting. However we live in a real world with real people and hifalutin theories like anarchism and marxism simply are never going to work. You see there's this funny thing called human nature......



I'm afraid we are going to continue cycling between freedom and totalitarianism just like we have throughout history... with most of the time being spent under totalitarianism, like we're heading back to very rapidly under the republicrats. Heck, just look at the enthusiasm that a bunch of motorycyclists, one of the last groups of basically independent types, apply to forcing their fellows to wear helmets based on no evidence that it even costs them a nickel... even though they are apparently all convinced that helmet laws will cause their premiums to go down. Well, folks, we do have helmet laws in many States and the premiums don't go down. I've never had a premium go down after a helmet law was passed in my area. Not ever. So that argument is complete hogwash. I guess the little napoleans will have to come up with different excuses for their fascination with what other people are doing and for their desire to force everyone else to comply with their arbitrary beliefs.
 

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Re: What's most important

I've decided to just enjoy it all. I mean, where else can you get such top notch entertainment for free? Heard Kucinich lately? LOL!

The dems especially are quite funny, although there are a lot of rib tickling laughs to be had from pubbies like McInsain.
 

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Dude, you just don't make a very good navel gazer.



I recommend a weekend with Barbara Boxer contemplating pyramidal crystal power.
 

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Re: What's most important

They're afraid of her negative numbers. Hers are higher than any other candidate. That means fewer moderate voters for her who, after all, are the ones who really decide the elections.

Wait, she's not running anyhow. She promised the people of NY that she woudn't, right?

ROTFL! Every year each party puts up the most craven, corrupt and degraded lying criminal they can find. I wish HL Mencken were still alive to see it. Imagine the new quotes!
 
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