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· The Toad
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We'll see.

I don't know. I think most of the hardcore helmet Nazis left. They don't like freedom of choice and they don't like forum change.
Myself, I almost always wear a helmet and I won't let a passenger ride without one. About the only time I ride without is on my IT175 on my cabin property in the mountains and sometimes down to the nearest town (rural road all the way) for odds and ends. I'm just putting easily along when I do that at about 30mph.

In the past I rode extensively without a helmet and dumped hard twice without hurting my head. I've still got the pin in my ankle to prove it.

So, is it stupid to ride without a helmet? Usually. But then some might say it's stupid to ride at all....in fact most people think so. So what? This parsing the pros and cons of helmets is pointless because some people are safe without one and some people are a menace to themselves no matter how much gear they wear.

Oh and by the way, no matter how many safety restrictions we implement your insurance rates and taxes for health costs are never ever ever going to go down.
 

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Don't stop there...

I have only one complaint about helmet laws: Medical bills. I wreck a bike and it is my fault I am forced to pay my own bills. That should be true for ANY motorcyclist that goes down without a helmet. Joe Taxpayer should not foot the bill! Other than that, I could care less. I've given up on the whole subject of helmet laws, tiering, training- the whole lot of it. Just don't make me pay for someone else's stupidity.
...skiers, bicyclists, pedestrians, hikers, kids playing sports, people using swimming pools, surfers.... we could go on and on and on. All these are dangerous activities and anyone being hurt doing these things should be denied taxpayer funded medical care, even though they are paying the "premiums". Yeah, that's the ticket. People being taxed to death and when they get hurt deny them any treatment. We can save lots of money that way! Just hire a couple of guys and a wheelbarrow to haul the bodies away to the landfill. That'll result in lower taxes and premiums you bet!
 

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It's amazing...

And some will say (not I) that you are stupid for not wearing leather at all times as mesh is less "safe"/durable.

And that is where legislation gets sticky. At what point does it stop. If helmets are now mandatory throughout the country and a study comes out later that states riders are safer if wearing all leather gear, does that than become the next item that is debated? Will the insurance companies use that as an excuse to raise rates because uninsured riders wrecked and had a larger than needed bill due to the fact they weren't wearing leathers?

History tells us "yes".
... how few people understand the "letting the camel's nose in the tent" phenomenon. They spend myriad hours arguing the pros and cons of nanny state legislation completely ignoring that the goal of the nannies is total control of thought and behavior from cradle to grave and issues such as this is just another brick put in the wall. They immediately demand more every time. "compromise" comes to mean that those who want to be left alone have to cave in. It's always one way "compromise" with the fascisti always gaining more.

You don't negotiate with such. You destroy them.
 

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F*CKIN' A, GOD DAM RIGHT START THE REVOLUTION POWER TO THE PEOPLE RIGHT ON F*CK THE PIGS KILL A COMMIE FOR CHRIST BURN IT ALL KILL THE WHITE MAN.....(ummm, hold up on that one,,,)HANOI JANE WAS RIGHT SO WAS THE ASSA-HOLA..WE ARE THE GREAT SATANS AFTER ALL SUPPORT FIRST STRIKE WE START BOMBING IN 5 MINUTES..(oh was this mike on? tee hee)UMMM...YEAH POWER TO THE PEOPLE THE SLA HAS SPOKEN.....

jeezuss, where's the beer, this riot incitin' is thirsty work ....................
I knew I'd reel someone in.

Somebody's gotta take up the slack since he-who-can't-be-named is no longer with us. I just didn't think it would be you. I figured on one of our european pals.
 

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This is the Central Scruitinizer.

If you really believed that was true, I think you would have died long ago.
Ha! If there's any place on Earth where darwinian selection is avoided it's freaking Europe. The entire continent's entire population is a ward of the State. All the people capable of original thinking left a century ago.
 

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Ah, but in fact....

You're smarter than that, aren't you? My basic beef is- we choose to participate in an activity that IS more dangerous than most. You, me, everyone on this forum have personal responsibility. It's is not my job to keep you healthy. It's not your job to pay my child's medical bills when she breaks a leg on the mx course. I'm not say "Don't treat the injuries". I'm saying don't make anyone but the injured (if at fault) pay their own [email protected] way. You bust that bean don't expect a Joe Taxpayer bailout.
Paying premiums for Insurance gives you the access you need to medical services. That, in no way, is related to my arguement. Health providers should not be allowed to pick and choose the injuries they cover. It all should be covered- no matter the nature or cause of the injury. SEE- the arguements are NOT connected.
Since my wife and I are in a pretty high tax bracket I am paying into the socialized health care pool. Like anyone else I'm entitled to share in that pool whether some crusader likes it or not.
 

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Jeez you're mean....

The ONLY socialize system I am in favor of is SCHIP. BUT- there needs to be a standard to live by. The Family must make NO more than $40k combined to qualify for Childrens Health Assistance and the system should not be FREE. You should have to pay a minimum premium and Co-pays. When I was poorer (than now) my daughter was in the PeachCare system in GA. I paid $99 a year and $10 Co-pays. I got the service until my income raise back up to a level where I could afford private coverage again and cancelled the State policy. They help long enough for my family to find more income and better (than the state) coverage. No abuse of the system. I asked for nothing free. I paid in, they supplied a service and I dropped out as soon as I could (2 yrs). You don't pay taxes to be taken care of by the Gov't. You pay them to run the Gov't. Do I think food stamps, SCHIP and other welfare programs work? Yes and No- It could work better if we didn't live in a society that abuses the very system. Umemployment, Food Stamps and other programs should have a six month window. After that you should have to re-apply for the aide. If you make it make it harder to stay in the system less people will abuse it.
...the next thing we know you'll be recommending that people who actually work for a living actually deserve a better life than people who won't. Then where would we be? How would that army of otherwise unemployable bureaucrats survive without large masses of losers?
 

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So?

And therein lies the difference. I think the vast majority of people are better off today than at any time in America's history. You said it yourself: you got motivated and you were able to build a terrific life for yourself! Did you know people were starving to death in the 30's when Roosevelt started the New Deal?
People were fed by local and State programs. Not the New Deal.

The successor of the New Deal, the Great Society has been an unmitigated disaster and virtually destroyed entire cities. Yeah. Let's do more of that big govt solution shyt. It works really well.
 

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Yeah well...

There is this old myth in the States that you guys have greater personal freedoms than us in Europe. Land of the free. Gun wise you have that, ok, but in reality you can't drink openly in the beaches and parks and the cops can seach your trunk withour a search warrant. Nowadays cops can wiretap you on whim and enter your house without you never knowing. You can't even publicly swim naked. Tsk tsk. Why couldn't you read a porn mag in the presence of a female coworker?

- cruiz-euro
.... at least they can't put us on probation before we commit a crime.

But your point is well taken. Americans seem to love to run to their govt to oppress their neighbors. At least we don't murder the elderly because of a lack of dialysis machines.
 

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Hey There jimmy bob! I just checked on the internets. Helmet laws still suck.
I'd bet that skiers are a greater burden on public health care costs than motorcyclists BY FAR.

Here's why:

Motorcyclist - All drivers are required by law to carry insurance. So if a biker gets hurt he's quite likely to be covered.

Skiers - No insurance requirements. You should see the packed buses of deadbeat college strudents on their way to cheap ski days courtesy of student discounts. They even sell liquor at the resorts. Any bum can pay a few bucks and run into a tree and end up paraplegic or quadraplegic... and often do. The numbers of deadbeat skiers are appalling as any hospital collection office will tell you.

And how about ATVers? These people fill the emergency rooms in the summer. Yet where are the outcries to deny them any public assistance if hurt while riding without helmets? They aren't required to have insurance.

One can only conclude that the belief so common amongst people that only motorcyclists are to be singled out for govt oppression because of their "dangerous" pastime is evidence of mental illness. It is vicious and irrational to single out bikers like this. After all the biggest cause of death in auto accidents is.... head injuries. Where's the outrage?

Helmet law fascists can all DIAF/PC. Or better yet. Hit in the head by a falling chunk of blue ice from a passing airliner.... shoulda worn a helmet dude!
 

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I've been looking into some wind power. Some do-it-yourself kits. We get a good amount of wind here. Do I think it will reduce my energy bill greatly? Probably not.

But, if I can get that working I will set up a large scale version on the land in Northern Arizona. I get more wind over there.
We don't get enough steady wind. I use solar cells and 12V battery storage to power my cabin. At home we bought a new furnace and tankless water heater and even xeriscaped half the property to conserve water. The funny thing is that none, absolutely none, of my wife's very liberal hypocrite relatives have done any of those things. They don't vanpool or commute on buses or motorcycles. My lefty "tax the rich" niece lives 5 minutes from a light rail stop but drives to the University each day because otherwise it takes "too long".

I guess that voting a certain way makes up for all sorts of personal hypocrisy.
 

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Actually I changed his URL to MO's site and I was the one that inserted the "my lame attempt..." title. It originally went to some Blog.
I guess those "Pretend To Be Someone Else" seminars for internet site promoters are still being given by Klazy Ken, eh?

I'd bet that a link posted honestly in the vendors forum would probably get more hits. I mean who is so stupid that they can't figure out these clowns with their "Hey, look at the great site I found" BS?
 

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You mean these guys that have been posting these things aren't real?
'I'd bet that a link posted honestly in the vendors forum would probably get more hits. I mean who, excepting AirHawk, is so stupid that they can't figure out these clowns with their "Hey, look at the great site I found" BS?'

There, I fixed it for ya!
 
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