You're smarter than that, aren't you? My basic beef is- we choose to participate in an activity that IS more dangerous than most. You, me, everyone on this forum have personal responsibility. It's is not my job to keep you healthy. It's not your job to pay my child's medical bills when she breaks a leg on the mx course. I'm not say "Don't treat the injuries". I'm saying don't make anyone but the injured (if at fault) pay their own [email protected] way. You bust that bean don't expect a Joe Taxpayer bailout.
The ONLY socialize system I am in favor of is SCHIP. BUT- there needs to be a standard to live by. The Family must make NO more than $40k combined to qualify for Childrens Health Assistance and the system should not be FREE. You should have to pay a minimum premium and Co-pays. When I was poorer (than now) my daughter was in the PeachCare system in GA. I paid $99 a year and $10 Co-pays. I got the service until my income raise back up to a level where I could afford private coverage again and cancelled the State policy. They help long enough for my family to find more income and better (than the state) coverage. No abuse of the system. I asked for nothing free. I paid in, they supplied a service and I dropped out as soon as I could (2 yrs). You don't pay taxes to be taken care of by the Gov't. You pay them to run the Gov't. Do I think food stamps, SCHIP and other welfare programs work? Yes and No- It could work better if we didn't live in a society that abuses the very system. Umemployment, Food Stamps and other programs should have a six month window. After that you should have to re-apply for the aide. If you make it make it harder to stay in the system less people will abuse it.
Natural Disater is not an excuse for "sponging" tax payer money. More waist happend with that (Katrina) than any other disaster (9-11 included) in US history. As for the family referrence: If Dad (or Mom) is a dumb ass, uneducated or will only work a part time job- it is all still no excuse for abuse. You always have a fall-back plan. The system should only be there for temporary help. That's it. It's not my job or anyone elses to make sure tax payer money helps people for extended amounts of time. Katrina victims should have bucked up and started over. They whined instead. If this same Hurricane happened in the '30s people would have picked up and moved on. We (compassionate people) decided to let our gov't throw millions of tax-payer monies at this situation and it was abused. Do Floridians do this- not on that scale (ask Kenneth Moore, he's from there). Step-up, help yourself or loose out. That cut and dry. Sorry this all sounds so mean but after 10yrs (before my insurance career) of being a bail bondsman and bounty hunter (no- it's not like DOG) you take no on compassion for the truly inept. I had to deal with ignorance for too long in that job. We're surrounded by the un/under-educated (thank gov't schools) and they think we owe them- SCREW THEM. Make your own way or get out of the way.
Why Should We! Marx said "From each according to their abilities to each according to their needs" para-phrased, of course. In the 30's the Feds created dependency when they created the welfare state. It's decades later and it's worse now than then. Social programs hurt people because many (not all) are too lazy or unmotivated to take care of themselves. Our Imperial Federal Gov't WILL become the Socialist United States when the Dems take control of the Presidency. Our (Union run) Educational systems DEPEND on ignorance and they keep our kids "dull" to keep them from asking questions. Welfare scum vote for those that sign the checks because they don't want to "Live Free" and Dems want Illegal Aliens (no pc intended) to vote because they- Dems- figure that's just more votes for them. Our system of gov't is broken and no one has the balls to fix it. Patch here, patch there- nevermind the ship is still sinking....
Yes- are there more or less people starving now? The New Deal was born from the depression but that's not what got us out of the Depression. It was WWII that got us out. Our ability to manufacture war items helped make people make money. My Grandfather was an auto industry executive with FORD back in the late 20's early 30's. When the war came to America he started his own supply company for the US Gov't to supply them with tank and airplane cast parts. He became very rich in a period that was not. He did not rely on the NEW DEAL to bail him out. He got educated and learned from Henry Ford how to make a busniess work. It's our own fault we are in this situation. Those that think our elective system is rigged don't vote (which consist of nearly half the country). Those that do vote keep the same slags in office no matter the performance. If they were heads of Industry they'd be fired for their performance. Just something to chew on.
You have just stated my point. The Federal Gov't should not be involved with these programs at all, unless it's providing matching funds for a state run program (which will have far less devistating effects on the economy). It should be up to the individual states to support or not to support any welfare type system. That way those that are locally elected can actually be held accountable when, or if, the system implodes. Keep it local. Give people a choice (by vote) to have or deny access to programs. Let the people live in the states that most suit their needs. I'm sure you Californians would be over-run sooner than later.
