[Kenneth_Moore]

It seems like you've described the Sport Touring catagory in your needs/wants description. That brings four bikes to mind immediately, there are certainly others: Honda ST1100, Yamaha FJR, Kawi Concours 1k or 14k, and the Triumph Sprint ST. You can get a nice pre-owned version of any of them for well under $10k.

 

[Kenneth_Moore]

...Bandit. Don't forget the Bandit makes a nice sport tourer too and is a lot lighter than the Honda. Well, almost anything is lighter than the Honda. Even a Dyna Glide is lighter than the Honda.

Yeah, and the Honda looks really cheezy. I sat on a brand new one at the local dealer. The Kawi, Triumph, and Yamaha beat them hands down on overall impression of quality, fit, and finish. I'm sure they run well, but so what?

Bandito, you say? Hmm, you could get a giant sombrero, wear a bandanna across your face, and sneer at the gringos over the top of your cheap cigar as you blow by them in traffic.

 

[Kenneth_Moore]

any can be a sport tourer with a set of bags.

You keep this up and I'm posting the photo of the red and gray "Sport Tourer" with the set of bags from Daytona again. I mean it!

 

[Kenneth_Moore]

I have to chuckle at today's bike buyers. Somehow people think that if they want to go sport touring they have to buy a proprietary design. Bandits, ZReX's, SV's, T100s... any can be a sport tourer with a set of bags.

And another thing Mr. Zawa: IMHO, a proper sport tourer is going to have:

- A full or nearly full fairing and widnshield to keep you dry in the rain and warm in the cold. Or drier and warmer.

- Quick detach luggage that doesn't take tools or 1/2 an hour to remove and take into the hotel.

- Includes or has accomodations for a top bag, OEM or aftermarket.

- A resonably comfy seat for the 'geena.

Sure, I used to hang throw-over bags and a windshield on the Low Rider, and put the Mustang touring seat on it, but still...it's doesn't make it an ST. With the Concours my boots don't even get wet in the rain!

 

[Kenneth_Moore]

... are we starting that "proper" nonsense again? Who defines proper?

Oh boohoo. I got my tootsies wet. Boohoo. Sorry but I'll keep My Zrex for my sport tourer and continue to show my taillight to all of the "proper" sport tourers as I ride through the mountains like I do now. Concours.. oink oink. Nyah nyah. If you tell mom you're a chicken.

You're right; trying to define motorcycle catagories to minute detail is pointless. Put your Memphis Flabs windshield and throwover bags on your UJM or whatever and call it a Sport Tourer. And I'll call my Concours a chopper, cause all the guys think choppers are the coolest.

My Concours may be ugly, but it loves me. And I love it back. And my kid likes it too. I'm telling Mom! NYAH NYAH NYAH!

 

[Kenneth_Moore]

... Can you believe it? LOL!

"This message was NOT ENDORSED by the Sport Touring Endorsement Association of America."

 

[Kenneth_Moore]

Now that's real adventure touring. That GPS stuff is for pansies! Where's the adventure when you ride in luxury from hotel to hotel?

The "adventure" for me used to be riding a bike that had a 50/50 chance of making it at all. And then trying to figure out how to get the f'ing thing back home when it didn't.

Reliability = Boring. But, I can get used to boring.

 

[Kenneth_Moore]

For the third time, she's a SAXON. A sextant is a device, not a person!

Hey now, I thought we weren't supposed to mention sexual orientation and stuff here.