[Kenneth_Moore]

Remember, the Nazi's went after the unpopular Jews first. It didn't take them too long to get around to everyone else they didn't like. Think about it.

It's interesting you should say that. I was considering making the same analogy on the thread about the stupid FL law. In particular when one post said something to the effect of: "The simple solution is to not go 30 mph over the speed limit or ride like an a**hole." I HATE that argument..."If you aren't a terrorist, why should care if the government is tapping your phone lines?"

 

[Kenneth_Moore]

... is a smoke screen. The real motivating force behind all this is simply the raw desire for power over others by petty and not-so-petty tyrants.

And what better way to get power than to turn virtually everyone into a criminal? Remember the 55 mph speed limit? If 10% of the cars on the road were doing 55, I'd be surprised. It's the same today, everyone is speeding, maybe you forgot your insurance card, maybe your handlebars are too high.

There is one and only one answer: KILL ******!

 

[Kenneth_Moore]

I'm the one that said that about the 30 over law in Fla. Ken. I realise I'm at the opposite end of the political spectrum than a lot of the members here, so be it. As a general rule I try to avoid politics, you all are not going to change my mind anymore than I'm going to change yours.

You're right about changing minds, we're all well past the point where our political views are formed. I'm a bleeding heart liberal Democrat through and through, and I like it.

I didn't mean to ding you personally on the comment, but the point remains: this is a grossly unjust law. You will be ARRESTED and your bike TAKEN for doing 30 over. Even if they modify it to aim it more at bike "stunters," it's still wrong. It's wrong to AUTOMATICALLY arrest somebody for speeding (I'm not saying there is NO instance where it would not be appropriate). It's wrong to take personal property without due process, and this "Contraband Siezure Law" is notorious for that. This analogy comes to mind: "On Fridays, it's against the law to eat meat other than fish." Is that law ok if you hate fish?

 

[Kenneth_Moore]

I have no problem with fines for extreme speeding. But why single out bikes? Cars and trucks have magnitiudes more mass and are far more dangerous at speed. Why aren't they being forfeited too? Answer: Too many of them.
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Absofrikinlutely! If you read my email to the "Legislator," I made the same point - a car over 30 is more dangerous to a bike, so why single out the bike? That's also how AMA gets many of these laws overturned. If you ban bikes from a street, you have to ban the cars too, else it's just discrimination.