Honda More American Than Harley?
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Re: Honda More American That Harley?
I've been to the Honda plant in Marysville, Ohio for their Honda Homecoming last year. They were celebrating the 25th anniversary of thier manufacturing motorcycles and cars in Ohio! Granted, it ain't Milwaukee, but the beer that made Milwaukee famous was bought out by Miller. And it's just not as good as Yuengling (America's oldest brewery (and best!!)) anyway.
At the Marysville plant they make all of the Goldwings, VTX's, ATV's and some of those 4 wheeled cages.
I've been to the Honda plant in Marysville, Ohio for their Honda Homecoming last year. They were celebrating the 25th anniversary of thier manufacturing motorcycles and cars in Ohio! Granted, it ain't Milwaukee, but the beer that made Milwaukee famous was bought out by Miller. And it's just not as good as Yuengling (America's oldest brewery (and best!!)) anyway.
At the Marysville plant they make all of the Goldwings, VTX's, ATV's and some of those 4 wheeled cages.
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Funny how you and I can go into a H-D dealership and look at all the official H-D chrome dodads on the wall for "accessorizing" your "American" bike and all the packaging says "Made in Taiwan-China-S. Korea-etc.", but H-D people seem to be oblivious to it. Same with the parts that go into the bike at the factory. There's no such thing as an "American made" vehicle anymore, and lets not get into the fact that all these "only good ones are made in America" people have TV's, cameras, cell phones, radios, computers, and a thousand other things that aren't made in America and haven't been for a long time. When it's built in an American factory, by American workers, with American wages (and taxes), that's about as American as it gets. All you H-D pretenders should just get over it.
Oh yeah, it seems to me I saw the figures somewhere that said the percentage of American made parts is higher in a Victory than in a H-D, so I guess the real Made in America title should belong to them anyway.
OK, end of rant. One thing though -- since H-D forced their dealers to build all those multi-million dollar motorcycle sales facilities (mostly to sell the clothes and accessories not the bikes), what do you suppose will happen to the dealer network when sales decline enough to make paying the mortgage a little difficult?
Funny how you and I can go into a H-D dealership and look at all the official H-D chrome dodads on the wall for "accessorizing" your "American" bike and all the packaging says "Made in Taiwan-China-S. Korea-etc.", but H-D people seem to be oblivious to it. Same with the parts that go into the bike at the factory. There's no such thing as an "American made" vehicle anymore, and lets not get into the fact that all these "only good ones are made in America" people have TV's, cameras, cell phones, radios, computers, and a thousand other things that aren't made in America and haven't been for a long time. When it's built in an American factory, by American workers, with American wages (and taxes), that's about as American as it gets. All you H-D pretenders should just get over it.
Oh yeah, it seems to me I saw the figures somewhere that said the percentage of American made parts is higher in a Victory than in a H-D, so I guess the real Made in America title should belong to them anyway.
OK, end of rant. One thing though -- since H-D forced their dealers to build all those multi-million dollar motorcycle sales facilities (mostly to sell the clothes and accessories not the bikes), what do you suppose will happen to the dealer network when sales decline enough to make paying the mortgage a little difficult?
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Re: Honda More American That Harley?
Denial.
"Me an my 500,000 bros will kick your butt you come talkin' that smack round here.
We'll kick it just to prove there ain't no jap parts on our bikes. Saab is a FI company in Kentukee."
Anyone want a shirt that read: "Your Harley cost an American a job!"
Denial.
"Me an my 500,000 bros will kick your butt you come talkin' that smack round here.
We'll kick it just to prove there ain't no jap parts on our bikes. Saab is a FI company in Kentukee."
Anyone want a shirt that read: "Your Harley cost an American a job!"
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Milwaukee, Wis. (July 13, 2005) - Harley-Davidson, Inc. (NYSE: HDI) today announced record earnings per share (EPS) of 84 cents for the quarter ended June 26, 2005 compared to 83 cents for the year ago quarter. Revenue for the quarter was $1.333 billion compared with $1.328 billion in the year ago quarter, a 0.4 percent increase. Net income for the quarter was $237.4 million, slightly lower than last years $247.2 million. During the second quarter, the Company repurchased 17.7 million shares of its common stock, in addition to the 2.9 million shares repurchased during the first quarter of this year.
"Harley-Davidson had a successful second quarter," said Jim Ziemer, Chief Executive Officer, Harley-Davidson, Inc. "The Company produced record revenue despite lower motorcycle shipments compared to the year ago quarter. We shipped 77,000 motorcycles to our dealers as planned, while retail sales of Harley-Davidson® motorcycles grew to record levels of 114,000 units, up nearly 6 percent compared to the same period last year. In addition, we increased our stock repurchase investment to over $1 billion year-to-date. Earnings per share were at an all-time high for any quarter in our history," said Ziemer.
Milwaukee, Wis. (July 13, 2005) - Harley-Davidson, Inc. (NYSE: HDI) today announced record earnings per share (EPS) of 84 cents for the quarter ended June 26, 2005 compared to 83 cents for the year ago quarter. Revenue for the quarter was $1.333 billion compared with $1.328 billion in the year ago quarter, a 0.4 percent increase. Net income for the quarter was $237.4 million, slightly lower than last years $247.2 million. During the second quarter, the Company repurchased 17.7 million shares of its common stock, in addition to the 2.9 million shares repurchased during the first quarter of this year.
"Harley-Davidson had a successful second quarter," said Jim Ziemer, Chief Executive Officer, Harley-Davidson, Inc. "The Company produced record revenue despite lower motorcycle shipments compared to the year ago quarter. We shipped 77,000 motorcycles to our dealers as planned, while retail sales of Harley-Davidson® motorcycles grew to record levels of 114,000 units, up nearly 6 percent compared to the same period last year. In addition, we increased our stock repurchase investment to over $1 billion year-to-date. Earnings per share were at an all-time high for any quarter in our history," said Ziemer.
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Harley has used Japanese componants for years, what's news about that. The bottom line is Harley Davidson is an American based company, American Honda is the American subsidiary of a Japanese based company.
If you want an American made Harley you better buy a pre '69 Shovel, Pan or Knuckle, Sporty or K Model......whatever. There all nice bikes, buy what you want and be happy with it. An American corporation is going to screw you just as hard as a foreign based company.
Harley has used Japanese componants for years, what's news about that. The bottom line is Harley Davidson is an American based company, American Honda is the American subsidiary of a Japanese based company.
If you want an American made Harley you better buy a pre '69 Shovel, Pan or Knuckle, Sporty or K Model......whatever. There all nice bikes, buy what you want and be happy with it. An American corporation is going to screw you just as hard as a foreign based company.
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It's a very well run company too... several months ago when they saw dealer inventory levels going up they revised forecasts and shipped fewer bikes rather than just stuffing the distribution channel.
Selling 35,000 more bikes than you built is a GOOD thing.
It's a very well run company too... several months ago when they saw dealer inventory levels going up they revised forecasts and shipped fewer bikes rather than just stuffing the distribution channel.
Selling 35,000 more bikes than you built is a GOOD thing.
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Nothing levels the playing field of life like massive cynicism.
Actually, they are "all nice bikes." My second bike(unlikely) would be a big Road King or Road Glide. I ride my buddies Ultra regularly, crank up the stereo and just "hang out." What a different and refreshingly fun way to ride.
Nothing levels the playing field of life like massive cynicism.
Actually, they are "all nice bikes." My second bike(unlikely) would be a big Road King or Road Glide. I ride my buddies Ultra regularly, crank up the stereo and just "hang out." What a different and refreshingly fun way to ride.
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Similar complaints the world over. For those who think that you should only buy things made and/or owned in that country, don't then expect to sell anything to another country or to own companies overseas. Other countries think the same thing about American companies overseas.
Similar complaints the world over. For those who think that you should only buy things made and/or owned in that country, don't then expect to sell anything to another country or to own companies overseas. Other countries think the same thing about American companies overseas.
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honda is the american harley now
I owned a real & the best harley many years ago...125cc rapide...2 stroke.........dont forget about the italian harley single pot 4 strokes.........harleys havent been 100% american made or parts for a long, long time.....
I owned a real & the best harley many years ago...125cc rapide...2 stroke.........dont forget about the italian harley single pot 4 strokes.........harleys havent been 100% american made or parts for a long, long time.....
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Aw c'mon man, I was sleepy.
Anyway, you're doing a fine job. If you point out any more typos, I'll fix them. Thanks!
Steven
Aw c'mon man, I was sleepy.
Anyway, you're doing a fine job. If you point out any more typos, I'll fix them. Thanks!
Steven
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I agree about their bus.-sense. That's why I'll probably never be able to afford to even buy a used HD, as they keep the demand so high despite ridiculous (in the objective, rather than the all-important "what people will pay" sense) overpricing.
I'd love to have a Harley, but can't see paying so much more for inferior performance, etc. even if I could. I'll just keep riding the 30-year-old Kawi, improving it bit by bit, and not buy anything new.
As for what is and isn't "made in USA". I got tired of that discussion years ago. People will drive a Chevy made almost entirely by Toyota or any vehicle made in Canada or Mexico or where-ever, with an American brand-name, and tell me I'm better off walkin' than ridin' that rice-burner. The last line, specifically, came from a guy at the gas pump with his Chevy Prizm (Toyota Camry), while I was filling-up the KZ650 (it's a nice-looking and -running old bike, BTW).
I agree about their bus.-sense. That's why I'll probably never be able to afford to even buy a used HD, as they keep the demand so high despite ridiculous (in the objective, rather than the all-important "what people will pay" sense) overpricing.
I'd love to have a Harley, but can't see paying so much more for inferior performance, etc. even if I could. I'll just keep riding the 30-year-old Kawi, improving it bit by bit, and not buy anything new.
As for what is and isn't "made in USA". I got tired of that discussion years ago. People will drive a Chevy made almost entirely by Toyota or any vehicle made in Canada or Mexico or where-ever, with an American brand-name, and tell me I'm better off walkin' than ridin' that rice-burner. The last line, specifically, came from a guy at the gas pump with his Chevy Prizm (Toyota Camry), while I was filling-up the KZ650 (it's a nice-looking and -running old bike, BTW).
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