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And could somebody delete mine, too?
I deleted 15 of the next 23 posts I'm going to make over the next - let's see, how long will it take to post 23 times in this enervated environment? - three months. Haven't decided which ones yet, though. For sure, anything with "nanny", "Mom" or "harridan" in it.
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evening all. i have a couple of question concerning mods. (no, not chino-wearing british youths on vespas...)
1. who is assigned to which forums, or are all moderators welcome to regulate whichever forum they are currently visiting? or do moderators have a loosely defined territory which they patrol, not unlike the mighty anomalocaris, king (or queen) of the cambrian seas?
2. how has moderation changed from MO version 1.0? what is the new mission/vision, and who decides/has decided this? moderators have the ability to steer the social (and sometimes moral/political) direction of a forum community, and i am curious to know how the leadership views its role in regulating the collective of MO 2.0 .
3. what are the credentials by which mr. duke and his merry wassailers select moderators? not being one of the senior members ( with only 178 posts), i suppose i'm just curious to get to know our leaders a little better (even if only through a detailed user profile, e.g.). by knowing better those that control the forums, we might better know what the new etiquette is.
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1. who is assigned to which forums, or are all moderators welcome to regulate whichever forum they are currently visiting? or do moderators have a loosely defined territory which they patrol, not unlike the mighty anomalocaris, king (or queen) of the cambrian seas?
2. how has moderation changed from MO version 1.0? what is the new mission/vision, and who decides/has decided this? moderators have the ability to steer the social (and sometimes moral/political) direction of a forum community, and i am curious to know how the leadership views its role in regulating the collective of MO 2.0 .
3. what are the credentials by which mr. duke and his merry wassailers select moderators? not being one of the senior members ( with only 178 posts), i suppose i'm just curious to get to know our leaders a little better (even if only through a detailed user profile, e.g.). by knowing better those that control the forums, we might better know what the new etiquette is.
-australopithecus fumanchuensis
evening all. i have a couple of question concerning mods. (no, not chino-wearing british youths on vespas...)
"1. who is assigned to which forums, or are all moderators welcome to regulate whichever forum they are currently visiting? or do moderators have a loosely defined territory which they patrol, not unlike the mighty anomalocaris, king (or queen) of the cambrian seas?"
Moderators have the right to visit and edit any area or thread they see fit for 'moderation'. There is no set area where we are assigned. Any of us can moderate any of you anywhere on the forum.
"2. how has moderation changed from MO version 1.0? what is the new mission/vision, and who decides/has decided this? moderators have the ability to steer the social (and sometimes moral/political) direction of a forum community, and i am curious to know how the leadership views its role in regulating the collective of MO 2.0 ."
The moderation has changed in that the forum was designed to talk about all things 'motorcycle'. Anything outside those bounds such as off-topic conversations, personal attacks, or trolling are targeted by the moderators and administrators for editing or deleting. The direction of the forum is to talk about motorcycles, and topics related to motorcycles. The trouble with the old forum is that there were people that had to take over every thread with politics, nonsense, and trolling. This type of activity will not happen here. I don't think it will be difficult to figure out what is in and out of bounds for most, but there is always the one that will push the limits.
"3. what are the credentials by which mr. duke and his merry wassailers select moderators? not being one of the senior members ( with only 178 posts), i suppose i'm just curious to get to know our leaders a little better (even if only through a detailed user profile, e.g.). by knowing better those that control the forums, we might better know what the new etiquette is."
I would have to say that moderators were chosen with their length of MO experience, and for their contribution to the site in the past. All of the moderators are long time MO subscribers, and are knowledgable about most aspects of motorcycling. To get to know wny of them, or me, drop me an email or a PM and I'll be glad to tell you about myself. I have a feeling you already know plenty about me, but maybe you don't. The new etiquette is pretty simple. Talk about motorcycles and eveything else will take care of itself. It's going to be really tough for some to do that, but they will do it. Hope that answers your questions and concerns. Drop me a line if you need me to explain anything I have said.
-australopithecus fumanchuensis
"1. who is assigned to which forums, or are all moderators welcome to regulate whichever forum they are currently visiting? or do moderators have a loosely defined territory which they patrol, not unlike the mighty anomalocaris, king (or queen) of the cambrian seas?"
Moderators have the right to visit and edit any area or thread they see fit for 'moderation'. There is no set area where we are assigned. Any of us can moderate any of you anywhere on the forum.
"2. how has moderation changed from MO version 1.0? what is the new mission/vision, and who decides/has decided this? moderators have the ability to steer the social (and sometimes moral/political) direction of a forum community, and i am curious to know how the leadership views its role in regulating the collective of MO 2.0 ."
The moderation has changed in that the forum was designed to talk about all things 'motorcycle'. Anything outside those bounds such as off-topic conversations, personal attacks, or trolling are targeted by the moderators and administrators for editing or deleting. The direction of the forum is to talk about motorcycles, and topics related to motorcycles. The trouble with the old forum is that there were people that had to take over every thread with politics, nonsense, and trolling. This type of activity will not happen here. I don't think it will be difficult to figure out what is in and out of bounds for most, but there is always the one that will push the limits.
"3. what are the credentials by which mr. duke and his merry wassailers select moderators? not being one of the senior members ( with only 178 posts), i suppose i'm just curious to get to know our leaders a little better (even if only through a detailed user profile, e.g.). by knowing better those that control the forums, we might better know what the new etiquette is."
I would have to say that moderators were chosen with their length of MO experience, and for their contribution to the site in the past. All of the moderators are long time MO subscribers, and are knowledgable about most aspects of motorcycling. To get to know wny of them, or me, drop me an email or a PM and I'll be glad to tell you about myself. I have a feeling you already know plenty about me, but maybe you don't. The new etiquette is pretty simple. Talk about motorcycles and eveything else will take care of itself. It's going to be really tough for some to do that, but they will do it. Hope that answers your questions and concerns. Drop me a line if you need me to explain anything I have said.
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Although I know you from your posts, I think that's not really relevant to policy regarding moderation. The fact that there's a policy to delete any post which is not in the moderator's mind somehow about motorcycles is idiotic. The ignore feature should be good enough for anyone. Moderation should be used only when there are complaints or when someone is flagrantly insulting or really causing problems. I don't remember Buz's post that was the first in the chain of deleted stuff, but I remember that nothing in this chain was overly ripe or insulting. We're all adults here, we don't need this kind of overactive babysitting.evening all. i have a couple of question concerning mods. (no, not chino-wearing british youths on vespas...)
"1. who is assigned to which forums, or are all moderators welcome to regulate whichever forum they are currently visiting? or do moderators have a loosely defined territory which they patrol, not unlike the mighty anomalocaris, king (or queen) of the cambrian seas?"
Moderators have the right to visit and edit any area or thread they see fit for 'moderation'. There is no set area where we are assigned. Any of us can moderate any of you anywhere on the forum.
"2. how has moderation changed from MO version 1.0? what is the new mission/vision, and who decides/has decided this? moderators have the ability to steer the social (and sometimes moral/political) direction of a forum community, and i am curious to know how the leadership views its role in regulating the collective of MO 2.0 ."
The moderation has changed in that the forum was designed to talk about all things 'motorcycle'. Anything outside those bounds such as off-topic conversations, personal attacks, or trolling are targeted by the moderators and administrators for editing or deleting. The direction of the forum is to talk about motorcycles, and topics related to motorcycles. The trouble with the old forum is that there were people that had to take over every thread with politics, nonsense, and trolling. This type of activity will not happen here. I don't think it will be difficult to figure out what is in and out of bounds for most, but there is always the one that will push the limits.
"3. what are the credentials by which mr. duke and his merry wassailers select moderators? not being one of the senior members ( with only 178 posts), i suppose i'm just curious to get to know our leaders a little better (even if only through a detailed user profile, e.g.). by knowing better those that control the forums, we might better know what the new etiquette is."
I would have to say that moderators were chosen with their length of MO experience, and for their contribution to the site in the past. All of the moderators are long time MO subscribers, and are knowledgable about most aspects of motorcycling. To get to know wny of them, or me, drop me an email or a PM and I'll be glad to tell you about myself. I have a feeling you already know plenty about me, but maybe you don't. The new etiquette is pretty simple. Talk about motorcycles and eveything else will take care of itself. It's going to be really tough for some to do that, but they will do it. Hope that answers your questions and concerns. Drop me a line if you need me to explain anything I have said.
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This is a ridiculous joke.
No kidding. It wasn't even worthy of deletion.
I agree.. I think the post deleted had Buz kidding me.. Heck if seruzawa wants to call me idiot boy I guess I have enough confidence in myself to laugh it off. Yes I laugh at myself.. Yes I have been out of control in the past but a email from Gabe usually was all it took to bring me back in from the Kook universe.. I guess if this over zealous moderation continues folks will get there wish i.e. kpaul will leave.. I really don't think the selection of the moderators was careful or well thought out.. Even though Buz turned it down I think he would be a good moderator just from the fact he turned it down. Sarnali and Browning Bar are cool too because they tolerant and respect opposing views. I think some of the others selected were a joke because they have been guilty of the violating the policy cited by ksickle. But everyone gets a second chance with MO 2.0 and I don't carry grudges so I'll wait and see .. Bottom line moderators should be staff members. threads should only be deleted in the most extreme cases.. On AOL during the election Pro Kerry threads were deleted constantly.. I don't want MO to turn into that otherwise I'll hang out somewhere else.
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Having earned the right to display "PREMIUM FOUNDING MEMBER" proudly next to my name, (I paid the $11) I feel it is my right, nay, my duty, to comment on the moderation issue.
1. I decided a while back to not spew my liberal left wing viewpoint here. It is, after all, a motorcycle site. I've held to that, with one exception which was a joke, albeit not well received. I'll save the political rants for other forums, like the Republican National Convention, which I hope to be arrested at.
2. The rants on Kpaul were amusing, but after a while, repetitive. I'd rather see a good-spirited difference of opinion on what I write here than a personal attack. Unlike Kpaul, my ego is fragile, and I cry easily.
3. Having said all that, I'd like to refer to a landmark Supreme Court case regaring a young man in the 1960's who wore a jacket with the words "F*CK THE DRAFT" (I edited the expletive) in a courtroom. The majority opinion was that if you were offended by the expression, you should avert your eyes, and that the right to freedom of speech outweighs any possible assault on the public's sensibilities. If I don't want to read somebody's stuff, I can just skip it. It doesn't take long to figure out who you don't want to read. And, even an idiot sometimes blurts out a gem. Like this little nugget right here.
1. I decided a while back to not spew my liberal left wing viewpoint here. It is, after all, a motorcycle site. I've held to that, with one exception which was a joke, albeit not well received. I'll save the political rants for other forums, like the Republican National Convention, which I hope to be arrested at.
2. The rants on Kpaul were amusing, but after a while, repetitive. I'd rather see a good-spirited difference of opinion on what I write here than a personal attack. Unlike Kpaul, my ego is fragile, and I cry easily.
3. Having said all that, I'd like to refer to a landmark Supreme Court case regaring a young man in the 1960's who wore a jacket with the words "F*CK THE DRAFT" (I edited the expletive) in a courtroom. The majority opinion was that if you were offended by the expression, you should avert your eyes, and that the right to freedom of speech outweighs any possible assault on the public's sensibilities. If I don't want to read somebody's stuff, I can just skip it. It doesn't take long to figure out who you don't want to read. And, even an idiot sometimes blurts out a gem. Like this little nugget right here.
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