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Re: Name calling is not listening

Okay, I was going to stay out of this one, but I just can't.

First of all, this is a MOTORCYCLE Web site. I would like to enjoy it as such. I get enough political witch hunts on TV, radio, and in the newspaper.

That being said, why is it that Republicans get accused of being neo-facists when there are plenty of thought police on the left side? And, while I used to be somewhere in the center of the political spectrum, the liberals/Democrats are pushing me further to the right every day. Democrats should change the name of the party to "Contrarians" and get it over with. Would someone from the left please construct a coherent argument on any issue, please? And you go accusing the right for being reactionary, ridgid and unintelligent. What a joke. A strategy of failure is no way to win over the undecided.

I'm not saying he's perfect, but if you can show me how George W. Bush and the current adminstration is directly and wholly responsible for the exportation of jobs (which, I understand is a natural feature of the global economy), how he knew about 9/11 and did nothing about it, and, of course the classic nonsense about how the Iraq war was all about oil, then I might listen. But I doubt any of you can because most of what I hear from the left are empty sound bites and slogans.

There, now that I've got that out, someone insult my bike or call me a squid so we can get back to why we're here. Any takers? BuzGlyd? Fire away.

Don't waste your breath kpaul, use this as your final thought

They will never change their minds even if the truth hit them in the face. My favorite thing to give Bush lovers is this.

Bush's resume by Kelly Kramer

George W. Bush Resume

Past work experience:

[*]Ran for congress and lost.

[*]Produced a Hollywood slasher B movie. [*]Bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas, company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock. [*]Bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using tax-payer money.[*]Biggest move: Traded Sammy Sosa to the Chicago White Sox. [*]With fathers help (and his name) was elected Governor of Texas.

Accomplishments:

[*]Changed pollution laws for power and oil companies and made Texas the most polluted state in the Union.[*] Replaced Los Angeles with Houston as the most smog ridden city in America. [*]Cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas government to the tune of billions in borrowed money. [*]Set record for most executions by any Governor in American history. [*]Became president after losing the popular vote by over 500,000 votes, with the help of my fathers appointments to the Supreme Court.

Accomplishments as president:

[*]Attacked and took over two countries. [*]Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury. [*]Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history. [*]Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12 month period. [*]Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market. [*]First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner. [*]First president in US history to enter office with a criminal record. [*]First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history. [*]After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in US history. [*]

Set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips than any other president in US history. [*]In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job. [*]Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in US history. [*]Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12 month period. [*]

Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history. [*]Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television. [*]Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any president in US history. [*]Presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed. [*]Presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have. [*]Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans. [*]Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind. [*]http://www.hyperreal.org/~dana/marches/)

Dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history. [*]My presidency is the most secretive and un-accountable of any in US history. [*]Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (the 'poorest' multi-millionaire, Condoleeza Rice has an Chevron oil tanker named after her). [*]First president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt. [*]Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world. [*]First president in US history to order a US attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation. [*]Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States. [*]

Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in US history. [*]First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the human rights commission. [*]First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the elections monitoring board. [*]Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history. [*]Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.

Withdrew from the World Court of Law. [*]Refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions. [*]

First president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 US elections). [*]All-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations. [*]My biggest life-time campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation). [*]Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history. [*]First president in US history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community. [*]First president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)

First US president to establish a secret shadow government. [*]Took the biggest world sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history). [*]With a policy of 'dis-engagement' created the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years. [*]First US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability. [*]First US president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the US than their immediate neighbor, North Korea. [*]Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.

Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.[*]Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive'. [*]

Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capitol building. After 18 months I have no leads and zero suspects. [*]In the 18 months following the 911 attacks I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States. [*]Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US hhistory. [*]In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the US has ever been since the civil war. [*]Entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.

Records and References:

[*]At least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available). [*]AWOL from National Guard and Deserted the military during a time of war. [*]Refused to take drug test or even answer any questions about drug use. [*]All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my fathers library, sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view. [*]All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view. [*]All minutes of meetings for any public corporation I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view. [*]Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public review. [*]For personal references please speak to my daddy or uncle James Baker (They can be reached at their offices of the Carlyle Group for war-profiteering.)

Re: Resale

Polishing does not weaken the frame. I pass on bikes with polished frames for a couple of reasons. Most importantly I hate the way they look. Secondly I have the impression (right or wrong) that the odds are greater of the owner being a squid. Nothing against squids mind you, but there is no law saying I have to give them my money. We are talking sport bikes here, so when I am buying used I look for signs that the motorcycle has been cared for like the owner planned on keeping it for life. I want it unmolested, the way it came from the factory. I am not interested in somebody else's idea as to how it should look. I have seen people put 5 to 8 grand of aftermarket crap in a sport bike and in the end they sell if for less than a nice perfectly stock motorcycle with that fresh from the factory look. Having said all that I do understand the urge to personalize a stamped out sportbike that looks just like all the other stamped out sport bikes going down the road. The problem is every one personalizes their bike the same way, fender eliminator, pipe, flush mount signals, carbon fiber, polish frame, so you end up looking like everyone else anyway.

Posished Frame

I posed this in the middle of previous thread in response to someone questioning why I pass on bikes with a polished frame when I am buying used. I decided to repost here to possibly get more responses on how others feel.

Polishing does not weaken the frame. I pass on bikes with polished frames for a couple of reasons. Most importantly I hate the way they look. Secondly I have the impression (right or wrong) that the odds are greater of the owner being a squid. Nothing against squids mind you, but there is no law saying I have to give them my money. We are talking sport bikes here, so when I am buying used I look for signs that the motorcycle has been cared for like the owner planned on keeping it for life. I want it unmolested, the way it came from the factory. I am not interested in somebody else's idea as to how it should look. I have seen people put 5 to 8 grand of aftermarket crap in a sport bike and in the end they sell if for less than a nice perfectly stock motorcycle with that fresh from the factory look. Having said all that I do understand the urge to personalize a stamped out sportbike that looks just like all the other stamped out sport bikes going down the road. The problem is every one personalizes their bike the same way, fender eliminator, pipe, flush mount signals, carbon fiber, polish frame, so you end up looking like everyone else anyway.

Re: Start Reading first Bush asleep at the wheel again

You mean Ted Turner's CNN? At least it was his until he was forced to resign.) Yeah, that's probably going to be fair.

Oh, and by the way, our enimies' (meaning both yours and mine) strategy is based on turning any conflict "into another Vietnam." So you, and CNN, running around claiming, falsely, that Iraq is another Vietnam is playing right into their hands. Like most liberals I know, you obviously have very little grasp of history. And obviously can't distinguish the difference between the two situations.

I, for one, did not go to SDSU. I live in New York, went to school in New York State and was in Manhattan on 9/11. I had friends who were in those buildings. So don't give me your grandstanding garbage. It's despicable that some have decided to use this for political gain (including some victims' families).

If Bush came out before 9/11 and said that we have invade Afghanistan to eliminate terrorists who are plotting against us, your ilk would use that very same memo to argue why we don't have enough information to act pre-emptively.

There is no doubt we failed to recognize a threat. But that failure goes back to many people on both sides of the fence.

What kind of Kool-Aide today? Kerry-Berry?

GPTB dues

You are now officially sworn in as a member of the Grayhaired Ponytailed Brotherhood.

What you don't need to get in:

1) Gray hair

2) Ponytail

3) Harley-Davidson motorcycle.

4) Money

You only have to ignore KPaul and his various aliases and you are welcome in the club. Oh, and you can't bash Harley guys because some of the members actually own one or two!