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Actually, Seru and I are libertarians, and I think BrowningBAR is, as well. So, it's "libertarian rationalist fact-pointing-outting" that you must ignore.

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All corporate right-wingers call themselves libertarians I thought.
 

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All corporate right-wingers call themselves libertarians I thought.
...can call themselves anything they want. I, on the other hand, believe that it is time we threw off the yoke of left/right/corporate/socialist oppression and all bought nice new TriumphSTs, Tigers and ZX14s and rode the living pi$$ out of them.
 

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"In the Internet age, why bother with print?"
Because you can't line a birdcage with a $1000 laptop.
 

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I'm just kidding around. I don't mind the political or anything else anybody wants to write. Everybody has a right to their opinion, and there have been a few occasions where I've been convinced to change mine. It's just that once I start on that stuff, I get a little hysterical, so best for me to leave it be.

I really like my 1000. It's not that attractive, especially from the front, and it's certainly not fast compared to many bikes, but it's fast enough for me, has lots of protection from the wind and rain, and can carry me and the youngster and our stuff for a weekend with no problem. And there's always the trusty HD when I need a dose of old-school. Interestingly, brand spanking new Concours 1000s are on cycle trader for under $7k. That's 20 years of refinement, a huge aftermarket, and a LOT of bike for the price of a Sporty.

Having said that, when the 14 is in the dealers, I'll be there to look and sit. It's either going to be "gotta have it," or "no big deal." If I did get it, I'd have to finance it, and that is a philosophical bridge I'd have to cross, as I've always owned my bikes outright. Car payments suck enough as it is.
 

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All corporate right-wingers call themselves libertarians I thought.
Hey, hippie, put down the bong and try to imagine how utterly miserable and short your life would be without those eeeeeeevil corporations.

I'm a proud member of the Agnostic Pro-Gun Pro-Choice Pro-Drug-Legalization Anti-Anti-Porn Corporate Lickspittle Party.
 

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Hey, hippie, put down the bong and try to imagine how utterly miserable and short your life would be without those eeeeeeevil corporations.

I'm a proud member of the Agnostic Pro-Gun Pro-Choice Pro-Drug-Legalization Anti-Anti-Porn Corporate Lickspittle Party.
I don't have to put down the bong to know that I'm not against corporations at all. Remember, I'm a Democrat. All us Democrats, especially the ones in office, are deep in bed with corporate interests. We're actually quite happy having corporations run our government through by proxy through lobbyists, just like the Republicans.

Aside from that, I'm hoping against hope that my startup will be bought out by a big evil corporation that has lots of money.

I was just surprised that you corrected "right wing corporate" into "libertarian rationalist". It's not even less syllables.
 

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I was just surprised that you corrected "right wing corporate" into "libertarian rationalist". It's not even less syllables.
Oh, SNAP!

Oh, SNAP!

(I had to write that twice because the idiot forum software said it was too short. THERE WILL BE NO PITHINESS ON MO 2.0!)
 

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I think I can offer some possible answers to your question.

Why? Because magazines, in many cases (as stated here) are more convenient. It's a bit harder to curl up with your laptop.

People still like to hold a magazine, look at the big pictures (a computer screen isn't quite the same). A well designed magazine is just more beautiful than most web sites. They like to feel the paper of a high quality magazine.

They like to be able to throw it in a bag and read it on the train instead of lugging and unpacking a laptop and using their battery power. You probably wouldn't take your laptop to the beach.

It takes time to prepare your digital files to read when you're not going to have internet access. It's easier just to bring a print mag.

Ask yourself this: Why does a tech magazine like Wired even have a print edition at all? Obviously, because lots of people still want it.

The Internet and computer technology is great in many, many places. I work for a digital design firm and I'm a pretty heavy user. But there is still a sizable place for print magazines. And I'd guess that there will be for a long time to come, possibly always.
 

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pdad's a Treekiller.

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And one more great reason for print magazines: you can save them and build a collection! When I was a kid I loved reading my Dad's collections of various magazines (he was a camera buff) but I also read all my neighbor's Dad's R/C airplane magazines. Although I never caught the camera bug, I sure did get the R/C plane bug!

I'm hoping one day my son will pull his head out of his Nintendo D/S long enough to notice the extensive collection of bike mags I've built and start browsing them.
 

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And one more great reason for print magazines: you can save them and build a collection! When I was a kid I loved reading my Dad's collections of various magazines.
I read MY Dad's collections of various magazines too. But, they're probably illegible now, with all the pages stuck-together an' stuff.......
 

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Personally, if it isn't too big, it will seem like a good replacement to the Triumph Trophy. I loved the trophy and nearly had one if it weren't for a lame dealership with poor customer service.
I beg to differ there, mon fre'r. The appeal of the Trophy, aside from drop dead gorgeous looks was in it's simplicity. Simplicity begats reliability and the ability for a reasonably skilled owner to diagnose and repair any problems that crop up. The only thing "hi tech" on the bike was electronic ignition, other than that it was a carburated watercooled inline four with chain drive, no servo activated windshield or suspension, no variable valve timing, no electronic instruments, just a basic motor and two wheels bike with some body work..

From my own perspective that's a good thing, I like my bikes simple and reliable. My Explorer and Range Rover are electronic everything, I can barely change the oil and air filters on them, I don't mind that on a cage but I personally don't want or need that level of sophistication on a bike and that's exactly what you get with the Concours, BMW, FJR and ST1300. Unless I go insane anytime soon my next bike will be an Airhead RT or another Trophy for a winter bike.
 

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I beg to differ there, mon fre'r. The appeal of the Trophy, aside from drop dead gorgeous looks was in it's simplicity. Simplicity begats reliability.
Yeah, and when the Nukular Winter DOES come in a few years (after the Last Great War), you'll be able to roam the Great American Wastelands as a Reaver; living-off of what you can find, stealing from those weaker than you. Just place to place to place, lookin' for that next tank of Juice to fuel your high-octane Terrorcycle.

Personally, I'd stick close to the Midwest Oil-fields - somebody is SURE to build themselves a tiny, crudely-constructed refinery next to one of them Kansas Oilwells. It'd be goin' day and night, night and day; Ka-chunk, Ka-chunk, Ka-chunk, Ka-chunk, Ka-chunk...........
 

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Two thoughts:

1. If there's anything all that high tech on a Concours, I sure missed it. 4 carbs, basic electronic ignition, shaft drive is pretty simple. The most difficult thing on the bike is taking off the damn bodywork.

2. If simplicity of design and ease of repair appeal to you, perhaps I could interest you in a lovely '77 HD FXS Shovelhead. It can be repaired with screwdrivers, pliers, and a crescent wrench, and most parts are interchangable with common farm implements. Unless somebody f's it up, it will be running long after I'm dead.
 

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Yes, it's true. I've always hated the leafy b*stards. The way the stand there, all smug; it drives me nuts. I walk past the same ones every day and they never ask how I'm doing or even have the common courtesy to wave.

A tree tried to kill me on my birthday this year. Jumped right out in front of my car (it pretended like it just "fell." Yeah, riiiight). They're everywhere and they're vicious. But people just refuse to see.

I'll get 'em, though; everyone I can. I'll buy newspapers I won't read. I'll print every useless volumous PowerPoint presentation I get at work. I'll subscribe to Modern Bride.

I'll stop at nothing. Nothing, I tell ya!
 
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