I don't know what happened to Dave Wright (actually have had the pleasure to talk on many occations) but I hope that he passed along all the ideas I had on the re-launch. I wish Indian the best but if I'm right (and I usually am on these things) they will blow the whole deal up again because they won't actually use "new" ideas for the re-launch. Expect the Power 100 motor and all the old crap they did before to last at least 2 years before Indian snaps into reality and executes new designes. Same old tired ideas. Wish they'd listen to me on this one. I told Rey (CMC's old owner) the same thing in 1998 when he sold to the Canadian's who brought back Indian the last time. Too bad industry people can't communicate with the great unwashed.
I'd like to see Indian resurrect the inline 4 which they made for a few years after they bought out the Henderson Motorcycle company in 1927. We certainly don't need another V-Twin motorcycle manufacturer. Triumph makes something like it with the Rocket III but that thing is an abomination. The Indian 4 didn't have skirted fenders either. Beautiful machine. It would have to have shocks though, the originals were hardtails.
Or they can at least try to repeat what Burt Munro did to engine at scale of 1000 cc. Or what John Britten created. I do not believe that nobody needs another 165 bhp 1000cc twin and then they can built any bike around it
If you've never ridden the Rocket go to a dealer and test it. It's ugly but the thing pulls like a train and moves from side to side like a bike half its weight. My cousin owns a FJR and one weekend I took a RIII home from the shop and we hit the NW GA hills. He NEVER walked away from me. He's no squid, either. He's an ex-pro racer with skills and the person who taught me my skills. The RIII held its own the whole afternoon. Sorry that people can't get over the "car" motor in it. But they are fun.
I do agree that Indian must be different to succeed. The "four" is a wonderful idea. But in order to meet EPA and Euro III regs they'd have no choice but to water-cool it.
I've not ridden a Rocket either, but Hokey Smokes, can I confirm that it feels a LOT lighter when rocking to & fro than one would expect. I was quite suprised.
I'm also a bit suprised that there has yet to be a real touring version - thinking "wingish" road boat - no faux fringe saddlebags, PLEASE!. Perfect motor to be cloaked - if you get my drift...and the perfect powerband for hauling around all that cloaking, wife, dog, Uni-Go trailer and kitchen sink. (on the other hand, any mfg that does what I think outta be done is crazy)
Are we all over fringe yet? Is fringe the motorcycle cliche dou jour of the day yet?
South FL $$ and Chris Craft. Why am I not suprised. When will they leave Indian to molder in peace?
Suppose I'll pile on, too and say the obvious: they need their own engine and look. No clone motors, no fringe-o-logical look, no cribbing the 40's Art-ish Deco-ish look. Nope, needs to be an American Original. Did I say ORIGINAL???
Back to the SW FL and $$$ connection: FL real estate is in the toilet for now and there is a LOT of $$$ looking for a big hit or a big write off to offset other gains.
Gents, this is the high dollar Custom Chopper Crowd - betcha. But the Chris-Craft thing is gnawing at me. Maybe this is finally the real deal?
If they're smart they'll buy Honda XR - 100cc engines and build an off-road bike badged as Indian. Keep the price below $10k and then introduce a dual-sport bike with the same motor and go after the scooter girls. They might need more than $30M though. Maybe they can sell T-shirst and cups if the bike don't work out.
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