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Re: Indian Larry dead
JB, I don't mean to speak for the guy, but he lived the way he wanted to live, and I'm sure knew what he did could take him out someday. My parents think anyone that rides a motorcycle, helmet or no, is a complete idiot. They didn't "get it" so to speak. Greg McQuide, God rest his soul, died in full gear. My father would say another idiot just died. I saw a guy that died doing what he loved, and riding the way he wanted to, just like Larry did. You can see it any way you like, but the man lived by his rules and died by em. That's the way I see it.
JB, I don't mean to speak for the guy, but he lived the way he wanted to live, and I'm sure knew what he did could take him out someday. My parents think anyone that rides a motorcycle, helmet or no, is a complete idiot. They didn't "get it" so to speak. Greg McQuide, God rest his soul, died in full gear. My father would say another idiot just died. I saw a guy that died doing what he loved, and riding the way he wanted to, just like Larry did. You can see it any way you like, but the man lived by his rules and died by em. That's the way I see it.
Gonna have a smoke while your watchin' JB??
Re: Indian Larry dead
Hoist a few is right. The man was what he was, and the only ones crying about it are the "do-gooders" of society that want to somehow prevent us from being what we want to be, and live how we want to live. Larry didn't hurt anyone by what he did. He lived and died his way, and when I go out, I'd at least want to go doing something I loved, rather than laying in a hospital somewhere. RIP Larry.
Hoist a few is right. The man was what he was, and the only ones crying about it are the "do-gooders" of society that want to somehow prevent us from being what we want to be, and live how we want to live. Larry didn't hurt anyone by what he did. He lived and died his way, and when I go out, I'd at least want to go doing something I loved, rather than laying in a hospital somewhere. RIP Larry.
Re: Lets drink to those who ...
Count me in as stupid, because I pulled most of the stunts you mentioned at one time or another. I didn't bite it hard enough to die, but I'm sure many did pulling the same stuff. C'mon Sarnali, you can admit to doing many a crazy stunt in your day. We all did. Some live to tell about it, and some don't. Being a firefighter and motorcyclist, I have seen my life flash before my eyes quite a few times, and I figure I used up quite a bit of my luck. Maybe we both survived in spite of ouselves. The point is, we are all "stupid" in our own way. One man's meat is another man's poison. I wouldn't call anyone stupid for doing what they love. It's one of the few reasons for living at all.
Count me in as stupid, because I pulled most of the stunts you mentioned at one time or another. I didn't bite it hard enough to die, but I'm sure many did pulling the same stuff. C'mon Sarnali, you can admit to doing many a crazy stunt in your day. We all did. Some live to tell about it, and some don't. Being a firefighter and motorcyclist, I have seen my life flash before my eyes quite a few times, and I figure I used up quite a bit of my luck. Maybe we both survived in spite of ouselves. The point is, we are all "stupid" in our own way. One man's meat is another man's poison. I wouldn't call anyone stupid for doing what they love. It's one of the few reasons for living at all.
Re: Can't compare Greg McQuide to Indian Larry
The way you CAN tie them together is they both died on motorcycles. Another way to look at it is stupid, suicidal, Russian Roulette playing Larry, outlived safe, sane, Greg by quite a few years. What ties us ALL together is the increased chance of dying doing what we love to do. Greg was one of my favorites too. We never know when we are going to check out, gear or not.
The way you CAN tie them together is they both died on motorcycles. Another way to look at it is stupid, suicidal, Russian Roulette playing Larry, outlived safe, sane, Greg by quite a few years. What ties us ALL together is the increased chance of dying doing what we love to do. Greg was one of my favorites too. We never know when we are going to check out, gear or not.
Maybe you can go out like this guy!!
POSTED: 11:01 am CDT August 31, 2004
UPDATED: 11:44 am CDT August 31, 2004
CHICAGO -- A 39-year-old motorcyclist was run over by a tractor-trailer early Tuesday when he tried to pass the vehicle on the Dan Ryan Expressway while traveling about 100 mph.
James Sumler (pictured, left), of an unknown address, was pronounced dead at 3:20 a.m. at the Stein Institute, a Cook County medical examiner's office spokesman said.
Images: Motorcyclist Killed While Trying To Pass Vehicle
Sumler lived in Chicago, according to state police District Chicago Sgt. Theodore Whittier.
Sumler was riding a Kawasaki ZX900 motorcycle, Whittier said.
Sumler's wife and mother said they cannot believe the news.
"He was cautious -- he was very cautious," his wife Janene said. "He was always constantly aware of what was going on around him."
Sumler's family said he had just completed a safety driving course and had just gotten his motorcycle, NBC5 reported.
An autopsy was scheduled for Tuesday, the medical examiner's office spokesman said.
The accident occurred at about 1:40 a.m., when the truck struck the motorcycle in the southbound lanes of the expressway near 79th Street, a District Chicago state police sergeant said. The motorcyclist was killed and there were no other injuries, the sergeant said.
According to witnesses, the man had been riding with about 20 other motorcycles at speeds of more than 100 mph, said a state trooper who was at the scene.
At about 79th Street, the man attempted to pass between the truck and a concrete wall by using the two-foot-wide shoulder, the trooper said.
The motorcyclist lost control of his vehicle and it hit the wall, the trooper said. He then went beneath the truck and was run over.
The man's body rolled away from the truck, but his motorcycle was dragged beneath the trailer as far as 89th Street before the trucker noticed sparks emitting from near the trailer's rear tires, the trooper said.
When the truck driver curbed her truck, she expected to find a flat tire, the trooper said. Instead, she found the motorcycle and immediately called police.
The man's body remained near 79th Street, to where state police were called by motorists who had stopped to assist, the trooper said. The man had been wearing a helmet, the trooper said.
The other bikers did not stop, he added.
All lanes on the Dan Ryan Expressway were open as of 6 a.m., the trooper said.
Charges were not expected, the sergeant said
POSTED: 11:01 am CDT August 31, 2004
UPDATED: 11:44 am CDT August 31, 2004
CHICAGO -- A 39-year-old motorcyclist was run over by a tractor-trailer early Tuesday when he tried to pass the vehicle on the Dan Ryan Expressway while traveling about 100 mph.
James Sumler (pictured, left), of an unknown address, was pronounced dead at 3:20 a.m. at the Stein Institute, a Cook County medical examiner's office spokesman said.
Images: Motorcyclist Killed While Trying To Pass Vehicle
Sumler lived in Chicago, according to state police District Chicago Sgt. Theodore Whittier.
Sumler was riding a Kawasaki ZX900 motorcycle, Whittier said.
Sumler's wife and mother said they cannot believe the news.
"He was cautious -- he was very cautious," his wife Janene said. "He was always constantly aware of what was going on around him."
Sumler's family said he had just completed a safety driving course and had just gotten his motorcycle, NBC5 reported.
An autopsy was scheduled for Tuesday, the medical examiner's office spokesman said.
The accident occurred at about 1:40 a.m., when the truck struck the motorcycle in the southbound lanes of the expressway near 79th Street, a District Chicago state police sergeant said. The motorcyclist was killed and there were no other injuries, the sergeant said.
According to witnesses, the man had been riding with about 20 other motorcycles at speeds of more than 100 mph, said a state trooper who was at the scene.
At about 79th Street, the man attempted to pass between the truck and a concrete wall by using the two-foot-wide shoulder, the trooper said.
The motorcyclist lost control of his vehicle and it hit the wall, the trooper said. He then went beneath the truck and was run over.
The man's body rolled away from the truck, but his motorcycle was dragged beneath the trailer as far as 89th Street before the trucker noticed sparks emitting from near the trailer's rear tires, the trooper said.
When the truck driver curbed her truck, she expected to find a flat tire, the trooper said. Instead, she found the motorcycle and immediately called police.
The man's body remained near 79th Street, to where state police were called by motorists who had stopped to assist, the trooper said. The man had been wearing a helmet, the trooper said.
The other bikers did not stop, he added.
All lanes on the Dan Ryan Expressway were open as of 6 a.m., the trooper said.
Charges were not expected, the sergeant said
Re: So let's not learn from the fact that...
The flaw in your reasoning is that the government has no business protecting me from me. Nobody gets hurt if I don't wear a helmet. All the other laws you mention are keeping one party from hurting another. If I want to smoke, eat fatty foods, not exercise, have unprotected sex, and cut myself with razor blades, it's my life and my consequences. In your world laws against any or all of the above are acceptable. In my world they are not. You say there is no infringement of "personal freedom". I say there is. I don't agree that the government should legislate morality or personal safety. Can they? Sure. They will do whatever we let them get away with.
The flaw in your reasoning is that the government has no business protecting me from me. Nobody gets hurt if I don't wear a helmet. All the other laws you mention are keeping one party from hurting another. If I want to smoke, eat fatty foods, not exercise, have unprotected sex, and cut myself with razor blades, it's my life and my consequences. In your world laws against any or all of the above are acceptable. In my world they are not. You say there is no infringement of "personal freedom". I say there is. I don't agree that the government should legislate morality or personal safety. Can they? Sure. They will do whatever we let them get away with.
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