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Jeremy McWilliams Rides the MotoCzysc C1

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Can you say "hyperlink"?

Sure you can...
 

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Hmmm... Deja Vu

'Created by Motorcycle.com staff' ????????? - seems like your story is REMARKABLY like the one on the front page of their website.

What gives....

This makes the lack of new content on the site look even worse.
 

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Was it ever a surprise that the bike was easier to turn than the conventional configuration. I mean that's what all the hype was about, wasn't it past present and future. Iam still waiting for them to go up against the best in Motogp at Laguna like they said they would a couple years ago.

Kudos on Jeremey Mcwilliams testing the cyzs and the opinions he's giving but when are you going to race the darn thing?
 

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I wish the article had gone into the current fairing debate/battle going on in the electric racing world. There's a smattering of it on CZ's blog:

"There are many debates about why the dustbin (AKA "garbage can") fairing was ruled illegal in '57. The reasons range from aesthetics to politics but one of the undisputed reasons is that several crashes were attributed to the dustbins and their negative effect on handling- and that was on a 1957 motorcycle! What made the dustbin fairing dangerous for 50's era racing motorcycles makes it suicidal for 2010 era racing motorcycles."
 

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I just went to website, and I don't see anything to indicate that he is soliciting investors for the project. Did you find that somewhere?
That's my little personal joke, that MotoCZy is just a guy who lives off of a constant con. We've been hearing about the "wunderbike" for years, yet never see anything really. I've heard hundreds of times that MotoCyz is going to field a world beater. Yet it just never come to fruition.

Someone is footing the bills. This kind of stuff ain't cheap.
 

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Dustibn fairings gave smaller displacement motorcycles the advantage of having superior aerodynamic properties over the big one-lunger Brit bikes of the day, and caused the FIM to ban them because little MV Agustas and DKWs were kicking ass on the Brits dominaiton of the sport. Here's an excerpt from a website on the matter:

"A single-piece all-enveloping, fully streamlined shell resembling the nose of an aircraft, sometimes politely referred to as "torpedo fairing". It dramatically reduced the frontal drag, but it was banned by FIM from racing in 1958, because it was thought that the frontal point of wind pressure made them highly unstable even with small amounts of yaw.[2] Other reasons cited were to ensure adequate steering range (lock-to-lock) and stability against crosswinds. FIM regulations forbid streamlining beyond the wheel spindles and require the rider's arms and legs to be visible from the side."

Another reason was you had 175cc bikes putting out 40 HP and going 150 MPH, which didn't make the big single cylinder Nortons & BSAs too happy, so they banned the dustbin. Much of the above reasons were tripe, pure and simple.
 

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Dustibn fairings gave smaller displacement motorcycles the advantage of having superior aerodynamic properties over the big one-lunger Brit bikes of the day, and caused the FIM to ban them because little MV Agustas and DKWs were kicking ass on the Brits dominaiton of the sport. Here's an excerpt from a website on the matter:

"A single-piece all-enveloping, fully streamlined shell resembling the nose of an aircraft, sometimes politely referred to as "torpedo fairing". It dramatically reduced the frontal drag, but it was banned by FIM from racing in 1958, because it was thought that the frontal point of wind pressure made them highly unstable even with small amounts of yaw.[2] Other reasons cited were to ensure adequate steering range (lock-to-lock) and stability against crosswinds. FIM regulations forbid streamlining beyond the wheel spindles and require the rider's arms and legs to be visible from the side."

Another reason was you had 175cc bikes putting out 40 HP and going 150 MPH, which didn't make the big single cylinder Nortons & BSAs too happy, so they banned the dustbin. Much of the above reasons were tripe, pure and simple.
MOKE is going to jump all over you for daring to claim that the big dogs would get rules fixed especially designed to favor their specific designs.

The first example I know of was the banning of the Stanley Steamers from auto racing as dangerous because a couple of them spectacularly blew up. Never mind that auto racers burned to death in gasoline fires all the time. The Steamers were humiliating the gas powered cars. The money behind gas powered cars was much bigger, hence so long Steamers.

Then there was the ban of the Indy turbine car. Same reasons... it would have kicked the shyt out of the Offys. This sort of political pull used to fix rules in someone's favor is as old as the hills. You can imagine what went on during the Roman chariot races.
 

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I caught the end of twist the throttle on Discovery Theater on Monday. Showed them at Miller with only one bike. They dropped a valve or something and had to hire a uhaul to cart out the only other existing bike and swopped the parts 12 hours later. Jeremy was in awe apparently, bike sounded awesome too.
 

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Motocyzs who?,...

That's my little personal joke, that MotoCZy is just a guy who lives off of a constant con. We've been hearing about the "wunderbike" for years, yet never see anything really. I've heard hundreds of times that MotoCyz is going to field a world beater. Yet it just never come to fruition.

Someone is footing the bills. This kind of stuff ain't cheap.
The real wonder bike to this day was built by John Britten.Watched that puppy on the track take third against the Ducati's and in the pits really close up at Laguna.
 
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