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Well, He-double hockey sticks... First post!



This "jacket" is the stuff! I have the "1.0", and it packs under the seat.



Very nice to have, and at a great price.
 

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Very nice but my AGV mesh jacket came with the liner as a standard feature.
 

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The cheaper equivilent...

Ummm....

If you look closely at that liner, you'll see it's basically the same thing that some golfers wear. Not that I play that little girl's game mind you. It's just the advice I was given when I was talking to Dennis Kirk on the phone.

There's no reason to upgrade just for that liner. Just go buy on of those pullovers for squat, and wear it under your jacket.
 

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Great product- I bought one about 8 months ago and wear it under my Teknic mesh jacket in the summer. I also found it is significantly better than the factory liner in my Fieldsheer cordura jacket so I wear it under that in really cold weather.



One thing not mentioned- it IS rainproof. I rode ~250 miles in the rain Labor Day wearing mine under my mesh jacket and it was completely watertight. Best $30 I ever spent on gear.
 

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After one of the "air" jacket reviews a few months back, I facetiously joked about getting one that was waterproof. I will now go get the jacket and the liner. Well done JR and thanks MO for the info.
 

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I for one am happy they did not include any faeces, no matter whose, how stinky, or gratuitous!
 

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If you haven't bought the jacket yet, have a look at Joe Rocket's Alter Ego jacket. It comes with the liner, and with outsides that zip on and cover the mesh, and even a little soft backpack to carry the outsides and liner in. I haven't used mine in cold weather or rain yet (ok, in fact, I haven't even used the liner yet, only the outer covers and mesh jacket), but it seems to me to be a jacket with a really wide temperature range, and it's been great in hot weather. And it's not much more than a Phoenix with liner.
 

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I'm glad you clarified that because we were really beginning to wonder about you.
 

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Re: The cheaper equivilent...

Few things in this world irritate me like "men" who claim to love the outdoors... and then when asked what they like to do outdoors... they respond, "I play Golf".

How someone can consider a walk on well mowed grass a sport is beyond me.

It's about as athletic as Checkers.
 

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Have any of you seen the Icon Body Armour? It's like dirtbike gear, but designed for street use.

I'm seriously considering picking it up. Guard rails wouldn't look so much like blenders if you had hard pads all around your torso!
 

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I have a Fieldsheer Mach 2 jacket which is great over 70 degrees, and ok down to 60 or so with the factory supplied liner. It is not useful above 105 degrees (it hit 112 when I rode through the Mojave 2 weeks ago) but I don't think anything is useful at that point.



Personally, I don't like the armor in the Joe Rocket jackets it seems really flimsy. The armor in my FS jacket is significantly thicker and seems stronger.



Of course, there's the problem that the FS is made out of "abrasion resistant" polyester which sounds kind of scary. I decided it was okay to buy this jacket after I spoke with a guy who had been down at 45 mph and walked away without a scratch.
 
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