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Re: Katja

Racing is a tough business for anybody, but especially for a woman, just because so few people associate women with riding. I hope she's able to get back to racing soon, if only to encourage more women to ride. My wife rides, and nothing makes me feel better than going out for a ride with my wife. Well, maybe one thing...
 

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Re: Katja

Chris Walker simply destroyed the Shell Advance budget for 2001 in the first half of the season by totalling a NSR en causing tens of thousands of dollars (go and find out what a NSR fairwork will set you back alone) in every race at a speed (the eroding of the budget that is) as I've never seen before. And he failed to score enough points.

Don't see what that's got to do with Katja, at least she doesn't crash that many times and shows progress. She was honest enough to tell what her weak points were (maintaining 2-stroke corner speeds) and as I've seen live she learns to deal with that. Dark Dog svcks, never touch the stuff ever again.
 

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Re: Women in motorcycling

I hear ya. The more women in motorcycling, the better (for so many reasons).

My wife rides, too. In fact, she has two bikes: Bandit 600 for the street, '84 Ninja 900 for the dragstrip. She's a pretty good dragracer, too. She's not always the fastest, but she's very consistent, and amateur dragracing is all about consistency.
 

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Re: Katja

Lets tell the truth. The only reason Katja got the ride in the first place is because she's a fairly attractive woman. She hadn't won a national title..which is what it usually takes to even be CONSIDERED for GP racing. I'm sure the team was a little disappointed with her last places finishes (every race except for one, no?). It's hard to look to the future with sponsors when everyone knows you have a rider that will most often finish last. She got an undeserved ride. Maybe she'll be better in the future, but as it is now, she has no place in such a competitive realm of racing..
 

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Re: Katja

Nobody is doubting her abilities. But it's kind of stupid/arrogant/clueless for her to say that she wants to ride in the World Superbike series because she's used to 4-strokes. Has she ever won a national superbike title? Has she ever podiumed in a national superbike series? Has she ever been offered a ride in a national superbike series?

Here's a non-sexist way of looking at it. Before anyone gives her a ride in World GP or World Superbike, are there riders who are better than her that deserve that ride? And the answer is definitely YES!

Why was she given a ride in GP? She is a good amateur rider who is both a woman and attractive! It boils down to marketing and politics in my opinion!

It has nothing to do with men being better than women which is what you seem to be suggesting or arguing against.

It's like Anna Kournikova in women's tennis. She is a good tennis player (because she has rich parents who can send her to the best tennis schools in the USA) who has NEVER won a tournament!

How many athletes make more in endorsements than they do in their sport? I can only think of Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods. And MJ is retired now too! Anna is on the WTP because she is a good tennis player who is tall, blonde, blue-eyes, and beautiful.

By the way, I'm not saying I'm some superbike wunderkind either! I'm sure Katja could beat most male sport bikers in the world. My only complaint is, she's good but far from being good enough to deserve a ride with World GP or World Superbike.

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Re: Katja

Fortunately or unfortunately (depending on your opinion), the sport is driven by marketing forces. Marketing supports the thing financially and yes, this girl is a marketing 'winner'.

Dark Dog is a stupid stupid team for letting her go. I never even heard of them before this girl piloted their bike. How many last or nearly last place finishers have EVER gotten this much press!?

And honestly, I'm not the most -dedicated- fan of the 250 class... but I could probably name three or four of her major and minor sponsors and I couldn't name but maybe one of Harada's or Katoh's.

In the annals of marketing stragedy (misspelled on purpose), I'm wagering that their decision to drop her will be rued by all of their investors.

She may never finish in the top 10 in her entire career, but she will likely garner more press and photos in her leathers and on her bike than the 10th place finisher could dream of. That is really all that the marketing folks want.. PRESS!

Their name in lights!

I'm not defending her skills as a rider, heck.. she's obviously not untalented... but is she as talented as the top 30 250GP riders in the world??.. hmmm... dunno. She could likely wax just about everyone reading this, or be embarassingly close (you fast guys shut up and admit it, 'ite! :) )

The MO article is spot-on.. she will have ZERO trouble attracting another ride in the same respect she'd have no trouble attracting a man, no doubt (draw as many goofy double-entendres as you care to from that!.. they're all true! haha!)

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Re: Katja

Consistent finishes. And let's be frank..the European Supersport is roughly equivalent to the AMA version. But here are her finishes for the 2 years prior her GP career

1999

8th

11th

13th

23rd

21st

2000

3 DNF

2nd

5th (twice)

4th

6th

7th

10th

11th

19th

Better..but give your head a shake..do those look like number deserving of a world-class GP ride? Ummmm...NO!
 

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Re: Katja

RRocket is right. Both Kat and Walker got chances to race GP simply because the people that were involved in getting them the rides wanted to attract attention to the sport. WSBK in England is more popular then GP's. So let's get one of the top Brit riders in GP and see if we can't remedy that. Kat, an attractive female. Hell, that's going to bring all kinds of attention to the sport.

With that said, I'm not trying to knock either of them. They both of tons more racing experience then me and could spank me anywhere anytime. That is besides the point. Anyone (including the riders) can see that they got their rides because of who they are and where they came from versus an impressive resume full of race wins and championships. That is a fact. Period.

It would be nice to see Kat up there kicking everyones butt. I would love to see her podium or just run upfront and make people drop their jaws.
 

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"Deserve." Now there is an irrelevant word in this conversation. You can use that word in relation to awards and such, but in terms of landing a ride it is utterly irrelevant. The only thing that matters is exposure. I read an article in forbes a year or so ago about a guy who works for a marketing firm. He takes NASCAR films and goes through them fram by frame and creates reports for his clients showing how much exposure they got (in terms of seconds on screen and how clear the shot was) and then compares that to standard ad rates during the program.

It is generally thought that winning puts your logo on screen most often, but that is not necessarily the case. Either way, Katja will get more exposure than anybody outside the top three, which means in marketing terms, she is a top three-ish rider at rock bottom prices.

Racing is not about the public good. It is not about "giving rides to those who deserve them." It is not egalitarian. It is about profit and loss for the sponsors.

BTW, looks are really subjective. I disagree with somebody earlier - I think Katja is hotter than Kournikova. But maybe that is because of my aggravating experiences with Russians.
 

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In her defence, in 1999 she was very definitely on the wrong brand of tyre. Compare her results with those of other riders stuck on the same rubber at the time and her numbers look really rather good. In 2000 she was riding a Gixxer 750, a motorcycle which at most circuits struggled to compete with the dominant Yamaha R1 and even Fireblade competition. She holds the class lap record at one of the Italian circuits, can't remember which one.

There does also appear (warning possible sexist comment alert!) to be a gender difference in her approach to riding. She appears to have a history of taking the time to get into the groove with a new bike in a new class, and rather than doing the Xaus thing - and crashing 5 times every weekend for the first season - she just isn't a front runner when she first starts competing in a class. Not many men seem to have a track-record for propping up the field one year and then showing them the way home the next, but Katja does and has done it all through her career, although less dramatically more recently. Given that track-record, assessing her potential on a 250GP bike halfway through her first season on one strikes me as a little rash.

Despite all that, she's qualified with a not-brilliant customer Aprilia, and put it not-last on the grid, for every race in her first half-season in the 250 GP class, often on circuits she has never ridden before, and while carrying a serious shoulder injury for many of the races. I think she's there on merit, at least as much as almost anybody is there on merit. When riders like Jeremy McWilliams need to wait until they are 38 and perform impossible miracles year after year after year on dog-slow privateer bikes before getting offered a works bike that nobody much else wants (the Aprilia 500 twin), and then only because British TV company Channel 5 ponied up the money, you have to ask what merit has to do with who rides what in MotoGP. There are enough people out there on full works Aprilias in 250 (and works NSR Hondas in the 500s) who obviously don't deserve those rides on 'merit', but have them because they have either a Japanese or Spanish passport and yet who are finishing behind other people riding inferior equipment, week after week. If MotoGP was a meritocracy, half the field would be out of a job.
 

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all is nice, but the photo link is broken!

whaaaaa!

*ahem*

*getting grip on myself*

Say, how fit do i have to be to ride a bike (of the 600cc range)? I am not muscular but i am not weak either... in gym terms...
 

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I wasn't saying Katja was better looking than Anna. Far from it, I'm saying Katja is the Anna K. of motorcycle racing to use an analogy.

Anna is hot! She's got a body just built for "effing". She looks like the sexy on the outside, dirty tramp on the inside type of girl, hahaha.

I could care less if Anna ever won anything. Look at that girl's body. Flawless! Her mom is kinda hot too. I mean, I doubt this girl will ever get an ounce of cellulite on her tight body.

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I need a cold shower!
 

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error. Superstock is NOT supersport

No, The Euro superstock is NOT like the AMA supersport by a Loooong shot. It is complelty different class and moreover the superstock cannot stand alone, thus it is a "support" class, between races. Press or TV coverage is nearly non existant. Which is why most aspiring pros race supersport, at a local than at a European level.
 

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HER BODY'S BUILT FOR WHAT!?!?!?

J/K, I guess the thought has crossed my mind once or twice----or 500---times.

Yeah, Anna's got it where it counts. I love russian and russian accents too, so she drives me absolutely nuts. Flawless body, long blond mane, the *cutest* face, beautiful tan, and a hot temper with which to spit insults at you in her native tongue. If only I could tame that tiger so she would whisper sweet nothings into my ear with her thick, beautiful, iron-curtain accent......

"She just dislikes me so much........It's irresistable."----------George Costanza
 
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