Great riding by all riders, however, did anyone notice the major difference in attitudes between Mr "Ego" Edwards and "I'm just glad to be here" Bostrom? No doubt about Colin's ability, but his attitude just makes it easier to cheer when he fails. Ben was really gracious to Troy & Troy, as well as Colin, who could learn a little about sportsmanship from young master Ben.
Kyalami Race Two: Bostrom!
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Colin has always been a good sportsman. I am guessing you are referring to his comment about almost running into the back of Corser or Bayliss? I noticed the very same thing while watching the race. There were several parts in the track that Colin didn't slow down at all, and everyone else was, or at least backing off the throttle, ie, where he passed Bostrom in race 2.
Even though I think his comment was OK, and not malicious, he doesn't usually do that. It's usually nice comments all around, about the track, riders, and how hard it was to win, etc. Bostrom on the other hand is not usually so gracious and non-, but he is changing it appears, which is great to see, because he's developing into quite the rider (and moreso, he's learning the tracks).
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Colin has always been a good sportsman. I am guessing you are referring to his comment about almost running into the back of Corser or Bayliss? I noticed the very same thing while watching the race. There were several parts in the track that Colin didn't slow down at all, and everyone else was, or at least backing off the throttle, ie, where he passed Bostrom in race 2.
Even though I think his comment was OK, and not malicious, he doesn't usually do that. It's usually nice comments all around, about the track, riders, and how hard it was to win, etc. Bostrom on the other hand is not usually so gracious and non-, but he is changing it appears, which is great to see, because he's developing into quite the rider (and moreso, he's learning the tracks).
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Rider quotes?
Can we get some rider quotes from after Race 2? I really want to know what Honda and Edwards both have to say.
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Can we get some rider quotes from after Race 2? I really want to know what Honda and Edwards both have to say.
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Huh? Slight hasn't been a factor in how many years? What is shocking about that? Honda pays to win, not to try. And Okada's DNFs are obviously not his fault the freaking engine keeps quittiong. Long nights at HRC are in the future.
Huh? Slight hasn't been a factor in how many years? What is shocking about that? Honda pays to win, not to try. And Okada's DNFs are obviously not his fault the freaking engine keeps quittiong. Long nights at HRC are in the future.
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You must be one of those people who bought land in Montana and stocked up on canned food to wait out the Y2K disaster.
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OK, so where are all the punks from last year who panned Boz? Hmmmmm? Go to hell, you wankers.
It is nice to see Ben do well, from all reports, he is a good guy and had a hard time last season.
Bayliss truly is fast, for his sake, I would hope he can keep it off the grass this year.
Some heads must be rolling at HRC right about now. Geeze, when was the last time you saw so many Honda bike failures? Daytona, Valencia, Kyalami. A total of 11 tries and seven of them had problems. Ducati is more reliable than that.
Speaking of reliable, Corser will be very hard to beat this year. Aprilia probably has the best management in motorcycling.
It is nice to see Ben do well, from all reports, he is a good guy and had a hard time last season.
Bayliss truly is fast, for his sake, I would hope he can keep it off the grass this year.
Some heads must be rolling at HRC right about now. Geeze, when was the last time you saw so many Honda bike failures? Daytona, Valencia, Kyalami. A total of 11 tries and seven of them had problems. Ducati is more reliable than that.
Speaking of reliable, Corser will be very hard to beat this year. Aprilia probably has the best management in motorcycling.
Listening to post race comments
No, just observing his demeaner lately as someone who is letting his ego show itself a little ("How many points am I ahead now?" second to last race last year)("Bayliss was pissing me off back there" Kyalami first race). I can't speak for Ben before this year, but from what I've seen both on Speedvision, and his gracious accolades to Troy B, Troy C and Colin, it just appeared that he was being more humble.
No, just observing his demeaner lately as someone who is letting his ego show itself a little ("How many points am I ahead now?" second to last race last year)("Bayliss was pissing me off back there" Kyalami first race). I can't speak for Ben before this year, but from what I've seen both on Speedvision, and his gracious accolades to Troy B, Troy C and Colin, it just appeared that he was being more humble.
That is something really new- Ducatis more reliable than Hondas!
Is there a reason that the four cylinder bikes are not as competitive in WSB? I realize that the rules are different from AMA superbike, but is the difference the riders or do the rules favor twins in WSB?
Is there a reason that the four cylinder bikes are not as competitive in WSB? I realize that the rules are different from AMA superbike, but is the difference the riders or do the rules favor twins in WSB?
That's what it seems like, but the only fours that we really competitive were the Yam and the Suz but the Suz is new this year and the Yam, well, there is no Haga. So look who Yamaha (Borja) Kawasaki (Lavilla and Yanagawa) and Suzuki (Chambon and Chili) have riding for them... Technicially, the fours should still have a hp advantage but it hasn't been that way the last two years. Hagas bike had some power to it, and so did chilis old bike but he had a few DNFs and Crashes last year.
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Not to mention spelling a person's name right is not about being an 80 year old femail english teacher. I'm not the best speller, or writer (with regards to grammer), but I think spelling prominent racer's names correctly is a little easier to get. Maybe that's just because he's American and I've seen it a lot.
You can take the easy way out and use BenBoz, that seems to be a common nickname (like Foggy or Go-Show[Anthony Gobert]).
Not to mention spelling a person's name right is not about being an 80 year old femail english teacher. I'm not the best speller, or writer (with regards to grammer), but I think spelling prominent racer's names correctly is a little easier to get. Maybe that's just because he's American and I've seen it a lot.
You can take the easy way out and use BenBoz, that seems to be a common nickname (like Foggy or Go-Show[Anthony Gobert]).
Re: Listening to post race comments
His comment (after race 1) about Bayliss echoed Troy B's own remark. Bayliss was talking about how Edwards was probably getting fed up with him trailing him by the same or smaller margin. Edwards agreed, "He was pissing me off." He was referring to the fact that he was staying with him, regardless of what Edwards was doing to lose him.
I know he's a little more than last year, part of that is being the defending champion. Just because he is not in first place now, don't expect him to cower and cry about being behind.
And if we're going to talk about racer's attitudes, let's talk about King Carl, he was never a pleasant person regardless of results.
His comment (after race 1) about Bayliss echoed Troy B's own remark. Bayliss was talking about how Edwards was probably getting fed up with him trailing him by the same or smaller margin. Edwards agreed, "He was pissing me off." He was referring to the fact that he was staying with him, regardless of what Edwards was doing to lose him.
I know he's a little more than last year, part of that is being the defending champion. Just because he is not in first place now, don't expect him to cower and cry about being behind.
And if we're going to talk about racer's attitudes, let's talk about King Carl, he was never a pleasant person regardless of results.
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Well, there are a couple of reasons why twins have the advantage:
1) Higher torque numbers, improving off-corner acceleration.
2) Narrower engine, reducing drag.
3) Power pulses are spaced wider, allowing the tire a smidge of time to recover. This results in less wheelspin.
4) They are different in terms of mass distribution. Notice, I didn't say which was better. The twin and 4 have different possibilities, leading to different tradeoffs. The current situation may favor twins in the mass distribution game.
1) Higher torque numbers, improving off-corner acceleration.
2) Narrower engine, reducing drag.
3) Power pulses are spaced wider, allowing the tire a smidge of time to recover. This results in less wheelspin.
4) They are different in terms of mass distribution. Notice, I didn't say which was better. The twin and 4 have different possibilities, leading to different tradeoffs. The current situation may favor twins in the mass distribution game.
I enjoyed watching both races very much. The first one wasn't near as exciting as the second, much more "racing" involved. What I don't understand is why I have to watch the race on SpeedVision. Isn't there somebody out there who could take over and actually show instant replays of crashes and maybe put the number of laps in the corner of the screen and get some better angles? SpeedVision does a horrible job of covering motorcycle racing. I don't know if ESPN2 is any better, but it doesn't matter as SV has most of the races this year (and every year). Anyway, can't wait to see Haga in the 500 GP this year.
Well Ben didn't seem to share your opinion after the race. Listening to what he said and how he said it, he seemed to feel that just holding onto the Honda would have been a huge challenge. But I wasn't unhappy when it lunched its engine. Nice to see Bostrom show us why Ducati hired him in the first place. But I still don't see him as a major championship chance.
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Do you honestly think Okada is going to more of a factor than slight was I doubt it. He had a pathetic season in Gp's last year. Slight finished higher in the in the WSB championship than Okada did in the GP championship
and he missed out on a possible 150 points.
And as for Slight not being a factor for a number of years,in that number of years he finished 2nd twice and the one year by about a point and also finished third.
Do you honestly think Okada is going to more of a factor than slight was I doubt it. He had a pathetic season in Gp's last year. Slight finished higher in the in the WSB championship than Okada did in the GP championship
and he missed out on a possible 150 points.
And as for Slight not being a factor for a number of years,in that number of years he finished 2nd twice and the one year by about a point and also finished third.
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