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This is manipulation of statistics. It should be titled Male Officers are likely to ticket male violators. I wonder how many women Officer Cox let off the hook because they cried or gave him their phone number. Why don't they poll the officers for the reasons they don't write tickets to all of the violators of the speed limit? Then it might read that four out of five motorists who were not cited for the most flagrant violations of speed limits in Tucson, Arizona are women. Get all of the facts strait. Yeesh!
 

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I say 'duh' because the speeders I know (myself included) are about four males to every female. Simple as that.



Although, it really torques me that Officer Tony Cox seems to think it's his calling to give as many speeding tickets as possible. Ticket the reckless drivers and leave the rest of us alone!
 

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Are men faster? All I know is that they generally finish first. I know one woman in particular who just hates this. "It's not that you finish first," she tells me. "The part that really bugs me is when you throw up your arms and say 'I win!'"
 

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Watch Out in Arizona

I used to live there, but now every time I go through the state I get pulled over for nothing. Usually they just let me go but I got a warning once for 6 over.

I think Arizona cops do a disservice to their state.
 

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What is a "flagrant violation of speed"? I have to wonder if changing lanes and going a little faster than the rest of traffic doesn't qualify in Arizona. If you're late for a meeting you're suddenly a white shark, male "daredevil"? I read an article on Speedvisions website under consumer news about single accident motorcycle crashes. Drinking and riding was the number 1 factor. I hate the message that speed and only speed is the cause of almost all accidents, 4 or 2 wheel.



Why does it say I'm anonymous? I'm registered.
 

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Hmmmm.... I'd love to see the break down by age as well. Really the article doesn't prove anything, since it is based on a subjective call, that of the police officer choosing to give out a ticket. It would be interesting to setup a camera that photographed all speeders and see the break down by sex, as well as the statistics on how much they were speeding....
 

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Nothing new here. Insurance rates say the same thing. Women pay less and younger guys pay more. Fast cars can triple the rates. I hope they didn't spend much time or money on the obvious. Then again all these people could be nuts and it's the "old guys on Harleys" that are the REAL problem. Yes that must be it!
 

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Funny. I know way more men than I do women, and yet I can name more of those same females who have crashed than I can for the guys.



I ride faster than my surrounding traffic at times, but I have never caused another accident because of my speed.
 

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Agreed, once again it's the assumption that speed ALONE causes more accidents. I've no doubt more males vs females get tickets because more males than females are on the road driving on any give day in any given city. I'd like to see the percentage of speeding tickets these cops write versus the overall tickets. What about illegal passing, running stop lights & signs, improper use of turn signals and improper lane changes? How many people with poor or dangerous driving habits perform these stunts in front of 'the law' but never get ticketed? It's easier to sit by the side of the highway and wait for the radar gun to go off to meet their monthly quota. And don't MORE accidents happen within city limits than on the highway? What's the statistics for tickets writen on the highway vs city limits? I guess the point of this tirade is that the whole revenue-generating process of handing out tickets has NOTHING to do with improving road safety. It just means that when somebody runs you down they probably won't be speeding when they do it. Cold comfort.
 

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Young men are targeted,followed and nver get warnings.From the age of 16-44

I got about 15 speeding tickets and no warnings.In the last 6 years,Ive gotten 1 ticket and 4 warnings.My wife,a willowy long haired blonde who drives fasret than me got a "whole lot"of warnings but only one ticket from 16-44.Since then shes gotten 3 tickets(shes not quite so willowy and her hair is less blonde and long) and no warnings.I think age and gender(and pulchritude) has a lot to do with how likely someone is likely to get a ticket,irregardless of driving habits.
 

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I'd not be surprised to learn that males are more targeted than females but a persons gender (or age) isn't so obvious when wearing helmet and leathers. Is that rider on the R1 with the pony tail a woman or a man? You can't always tell, the female riders that I know are much more muscular (lower body fat) than female non-riders that I know.
 

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Duh, let's see... There are many more male riders than female, and that being said, I remember an old survey that said a higher percentage of male riders (vs female) preferred sport bikes. Sport bikes are more targeted by cops than other bikes. What looks faster, an r1 doing 78 or a cruiser doing 82?
 

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What!? You mean it's not snowing where you live?





My point is that going above the speed limit doesn't necessarily have a high correlation to how good of a driver someone is, or whether or not that person will get into an accident.



I have gone 150 mph on a highway before. Nothing bad came of it.



I have a friend who split lanes at 25 mph, with the cars in the right lane being parked cars. He ended up hitting an Explorer that was making a right turn in front of him.



Instead of paying for speeding tickets, I'll gladly help pay to have everyone run through a more rigorous driving test... every 2 or 3 years. Weed out the idiots who think they're the only ones on the road; and that just because they're on a fast bike or a bike SUV that their actions don't affect others.
 

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The only generalization I'm comfortable making is, if a guy is going to get stopped on a

motorcycle, he should try to arrange it so that the officer is an off-duty motorcyclist.



Although extreme (okay, nauseating) politeness has on rare occasions managed to get me

out of a fine for minor infractions on four wheels, every single time I've been stopped on

a bike (geez, what're those odds?), the cop was a rider (I have no experience regarding stops

by motorcycle-mounted cops). I promptly removed my helmet and gloves, produced the

prerequisite paperwork, nodded "yes, sir" agreeably (even the time I'd blipped the gas a bit and

wheelied over some railroad tracks when there was a cop right behind me: "Son, I don't mind if

you're enclined to engage in that sort of thing now and then, but keep it off my streets, okay?"),

and got off with a warning -- even once when the cop was a confirmed Harley guy who took

umbrage at my hanging a knee off an old ZX600. As soon as he was assured I wasn't quite as

squidly as he first thought, he was cool.



Oh, man. If only half the moral is "Be nice, and maybe it'll save you some cash," I'm

sounding way too much like my dad.
 

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Ouch.



Nick, there's a reeeeeal art to hanging onto a joke like that until an opportunity comes up

to work it into conversation.



Now, whether my sigoth will find it as funny is another matter.
 
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