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the very idea that something like the Patriot Guard is necessary makes me actually queesy. That people would protest at a funeral, at an actual funeral, is not merely a matter of putting politics before patriotism, it's an affront to the fundamental dignity of the human person. Folks who would protest at a funeral, making a solemn burial and period of mourning into a stump speech...damn. I don't care if they're 100% right, politically, I could never vote with people that behave that way. They might as well have robbed the grave.
 

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Yeah, that struck me right away. They're even worse than the s***** who threw dogshyt on returning troops during the Vietnam War. What kind of a sicko harasses the families at a funeral? Or calls them on the phone saying, "I'm glad your son is dead".



Since cemetaries are private or govt property I wonder why the protesters can't be arrested for trespassing.
 

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Unless I missed something, exactly what the protester's agenda was, was not made clear. I mention that because there is a group of fundamentalist Christians who show up at soldiers funerals and tell the bereaved that God is glad their child is dead because America condones Homosexuality. I know that these patriot guys have shown up at some of the same funerals as that church group, so it could be A$$holes on the right instead of A$$holes on the left. They have em on both sides of the spectrum and the only two things they have in common, is that they truly believe that they are just doing what God would do, if he knew the facts, and, well, they're A$$HOLES.
 

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He's right. If I remember correctly, the people protesting funerals are the Westboro Baptist Church. It's one idiot, Fred Phelps, from Topeka and a church composed of his family. His schtick is "God hates ****", "Thank God for 9/11", etc. He's pretty much universally loathed. Again, if memory serves, this protection was composed specifically to keep WBC away from the funerals, although DefenseLink is too starchy to say so.



Phelps is also a registered Democrat {adds gasoline to flamewar}. That of course is irrelevant, the only point is that he's just a farktard, not a Christian or Democrat, and shouldn't reflect badly on anyone except himself (not that it wont stop Professor Facts and Data with his shopworn Fox News "joke").
 

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hah just so you know moveon doesn't support protesting at funerals ;)



I'm not for the war but I believe the troops deserve thanks just the same. I believe you can be against the war but for the troops.



protesting at a funeral is pretty messed up no mater who is doing it.
 

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It ran on CNN and some other networks for a while. I'm surprised you didn't see it. They have a court case, where they claim they have the right of assembly, and can what they want. Unfortunately, it hasn't gotten to the Supreme Court yet. I suppose, in the larger picture, it's possible that these idiots will have the stronger case. Like the Neonazis that get a permit to march in a jewish neighborhood, or something. I'm not sure where your draw the line. The gaurdians (Im pretty sure that was their name; I'm assuming it's the same group) took upon themselves the task of getting between the protestors and making enough noise to drown out the protesters, if necessary. I don't think any True Christian could possibly object to that.
 

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A friend of mine rides with the Patriot Guard. They go to the funerals of our fallen soldiers to keep the families from having to deal with this Phelps a#@h#le. They place themselves between this whack job and his fellow band of lunatics and the families of the fallen soldier.



Phelps runs a church that believes that because the US is liberalizing its view on gays that we are heathens and that God is punishing us by killing our soldiers. No politics here, just plain hate.



Where are Jake and Elwood when you need them?

 

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One thing I might add, that nobody has pointed-out yet. I'm a member of the PGR, and our job is NOT to be a counter-protest group, NOT to "fight" or confront the Uglies - we are a Human Shield - so the families of the fallen do not have to see or hear the protesters. We are there at the Express Invitation of the Families.

Our job is to show Respect to the fallen and their families, and to show them that America cares for their loss.

Just wanted to clarify that for those who may not realize that the Patriot Guard Riders is NOT a protest/activist group.

For more information, see: http://patriotguard.org/
 

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Are protestors showing up in large enough numbers for this to be ab issue?



If they are, perhaps you should scrap that "non-violent means" stuff. A good beat down might keep the protestor types from ruining anymore funerals.
 

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Actualy if anything they are right wing not left. Taken from their site - "They are second in evil only to the modern day Saduccees (i.e., bleeding heart liberals)."



(just trying to move some wrongly placed fuel away from the fire)
 

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Absolutely. This sort of insanity isn't limited to any particular political, religious or social group.



In a nation of 275 million you're going to find plenty of loonies.



For that matter 90% of people think that all motorcyclists are loonies and they may be right. I'd rather be a loony than a drone staring at a TV set.
 

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"Imagine if a bunch of neo-cons were at a funeral of a gay guy who died of AIDS doing something like this."



Isn't that exactly what this was? well except this wasn't an AIDS death (the same people of course picket those as well)



I wonder if there is a group that tries to block them at AIDS death pickets?
 
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