[TEvo]

RIP.



It's sad that injuries received from the sport that he apparently loved may have contributed to the alleged suicide.

 

[Buzglyd]

How awful for his wife and child. A good friend's wife killed herself one year ago and to see him and his children go through that is a memory I won't soon forget.



Pray for his family.

 

[37826]

Amen. Nothing is harder on surviving family.

 

[57335]

Tragic. I'll wear my old No Fear stuff with a bit of melancholy.

 

[39970]

My condolences to his family and friends.



R.I.P.

 

[42070]

Suicide, a permanent solution to a temporary problem, and the most selfish, cruel and cowardly way to go. They think nothing of what that will do to those who love and care for them, only of their own issues.

 

[BrowningBAR]

I was wondering how long it would take before the "cowardly, selfish" remarks started.

 

[23020]

If it was physical pain he was experiencing, there are a number of drugs available (either through prescription or otherwise) to deal with this.

 

[23020]

There's more to it than that...

I agree with your statement, but everybody feels down now and again. Moates' might have been suffering from a psychological condition that was a result of the pain from his past injuries, compounding his predicament.

That's why it's important for some people diagnosed with these conditions to stay on their medication because bad things can ensue if they don't. Don't be so quick to judge.

 

[macmanjim]

Alleged?

 

[58876]

I'm too cowardly and selfish to kill myself, much to the chagrin of my family.

 

[BrowningBAR]

Nice.

 

[mscuddy]

Cowardly? You try sticking a .44 to your head sometime.



When life gets too painfull, when it hurts to actually live, you can guess what's next.



That or let the shrinks lobotomize you with drugs.



I think it's the ultimate act of freedom.

 

[BrowningBAR]

I agree. I'd rather go out into the wilderness and end it on my terms than be strapped into a hospital bed with my loved ones watching me slowly whither away.

 

[mscuddy]

Re: RIP

"What does it matter where you lay once you're dead? In a dirty sump or in a marble tower on top of a high hill? You were dead, you were sleeping the big sleep, you are not bothered by things like that, oil and water are the same as wind and air to you. You just slept the big sleep, not caring about the nastiness of how you died or where you fell."

 

[56279]

Alright, boys... it's time to put the Hemingway novels away and come back to reality.



Freedom? Hardly. The word you're looking for is "defiance."

 

[BrowningBAR]

Defiance, freedom, or just plain crazy. I'll do it my way thank you kindly.



And I'm more of an HST fan.

 

[57343]

Good use of facts/data.

 

[27580]

Yes and they can lead to addiction. Many suffer from and find suicide the only relief from. Clearly I don't know a thing about his situation; but as is often the case the cure is worse than the cause.

 

[39970]

Well said.