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Motorcycle fatalities in the Sacramento Area

18650 Views 102 Replies 33 Participants Last post by  eddyline
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Seriously though, I guess I'd have to agree with Sean. Even the new rider on the Harley may have been taking risks that were a little too high in general - I don't know how fast he happened to be going, but I know I routinely see guys going down two-lane rural roads at night as fast as they would during the day. Now maybe some guys have much better night perception than I do, but I'll say that for me I tend to back off some at night, finding my ability to judge exact distances and speeds not as precise in darkness than in the light of day, not to mention making reading the road ahead of you from a long way off that much harder. I believe it's called "out-riding your headlights".
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I took the MSF course in Fullerton. On the final day, the instructor told us, "Now you have the skills to safely negotiate an empty parking lot."

Then he went on to explain to us how he had been racing for a while, and that we needed to get our bikes, and practice, practice, practice, to ride frequently and safely, and in about six months, take the next course on the list, before we could really consider ourselves safe street riders. After seeing and hearing about some really gruesome crashes, I've come to the conclusion that SoCal is sort of the Advanced course for riding: people don't signal--it might cause the car next to you to close the gap, and you can't make your lane change; no one really seems to get ticketed for speeding, unless you're going at least 15 mph faster than the rest of the speeders; people hit the brakes for no apparent reason, even when being tailgated(possibly _because_ they're being tailgated); you'd better get on that gas pedal, bub--you might not make that next red light; et cetera....

Or maybe it's just getting that way because the cagers feel like they're sitting in the Barcalounger at home, playing a video game. Cars are too safe; the only consequences these days, for the most part, are a broken nose, slap on the wrist, and higher insurance premiums.
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Re: now to wax philisophic

One of the closest things to a rugged individualist would probably be a mountain man of the early 1800s. Of course, he had to sell his beaver pelts to someone and buy gunpowder and supplies from someone else.
Hey, well, thanks for the compliment.

And don't kid yourself. I like CW but they don't have that home cookin' MO appeal.
Kerry will do the same as this

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Kerry has the same economic team as Clinton. Cheney said "Deficits are irrelevant, Greenspan and ever other economist disagree"
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Re: Kerry will do the same as this

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Re: Defending British Motojournalist and Html for Dummies

The engines are certainly from different planets but the style is exactly what a japanese new-max design team could be expected to come up with after drinking too much coffee. So I call this pissing contest a draw.

- cruiz-euro
Re: Does this make me a liberal? Or is George Bush a true Republican/Conservative?

Why on earth everybody on this thread wants a small government? How 'bout a strong government that says: look, everybody gets a 5 week annual vacation. End of story.

Big business is good but if you let them run the country are you are never going to get charge free dental for all.

- cruiz-euro
Re: Does this make me a liberal? Or is George Bush a true Republican/Conservative?

Because if the govt forces all businesses to give out 5 weeks paid vacation then hundreds of thousands of people will get laid off and we'll end up like Europe with 20+% of the people unemployed.
Just out of curiosity, how many car/truck/etc.. fatalities happened in the Sacramento Area last week. If it's like Denver, bikes make the news others because they're common are just stuff unless there's some sort of human interest twist, (group of high school kids, expectant mom, whatever). At least bikers are human interest fodder for the press....
Perhaps the Masses Could Floss?

You might not need cradle-to-grave socialism if the children were taught to brush their teeth. Just a thought....
Re: Did you lose a bet?

Yeah, it's pretty fricking hot out here. I snuck a peek at the Weather Channel website yesterday and it was hotter than Death Valley by about 3 degrees.

On the upside, I work closer to the ocean, so I'm not there in the daytime when it's at its worst.
Yup, that about covers it for SoCal. The only one you forgot is what happens when it rains. One third pf the people are confused and slow down to 20mph because they forgot that water can fall from the sky, and the second third are scared and just drive faster because they are afraid their cars will melt like the Wicked Witch of the West. The remaining third just drive normally and try to dodge the other 2/3.
So, you moved to the 909 huh?

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Re: Ride Naked longride

It's all about YOU, isn't it KPaul.

Thing there might be a chance that Longride was commenting on Government Mandated Helmet Laws in general and not trying to comment on KPaulKook?
Re: Does this make me a liberal? Or is George Bush a true Republican/Conservative?

The unemployment rate in EU countries was 7.5% - 9.5% last year depending on how measured. Higher than in the US - but the reason is more to do with the generous unemployment benefit than vacation or free dental. If you get 65% of your salary for two years when laid off, hey you are not gonna go flipping burgers.

Of course this sort of slack affects the economical performance. Other side of the coin is that everybody is more relaxed.

- cruiz-euro
P.S. Bush is not a conservative.

I read that unemployment amongst people under 25 in France is something like 25%. I wonder what the unemployment figures are in various countries when broken down by age groups. Of course France has its own unique problems - apparently they shut their whole country down every year for no particluar reason.

What I do know is that about 6 months a go I had a tooth get abcessed and woke up in serious pain on a Monday morning. I called my dentist and got an 8 AM appointment, had a root canal and was off to work by 9:30 AM. I'm glad I didn't have to wait several days like they do in England or Canada.
Re: P.S. Bush is not a conservative.

Good example but comparison fails seruzawa.

A person gets immediate assistance in private clinics both in Europe and US.

But the difference is that if you are flat broke, jobless and even your Rebel project is frozen due to lack of funds you also get high quality dental care. A substantial advantage I would say (actually I don't know anybody with a dental insurance).

Interestingly, our private clinics and dental insurance are much cheaper than yours. After all, they have to compete with the free option. However, I prefer govt dentists because they have no incentive to recommend unnecessary work.

- cruiz-euro
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Re: Does this make me a liberal? Or is George Bush a true Republican/Conservative?

Good for you eddyline. The only wasted vote is for one of the corrupt staus quo parties. VWW
Re: Does this make me a liberal? Or is George Bush a true Republican/Conservative?

As spoken by one of our founding fathers shortly after throwing off the yoke of tranny: Any government powerful enough to give you everything you want, is powerful enough to take everything you have. VWW
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