[gojirasf]

But the problem is when there are NO other cagers around. When cars are around, then they can set off the light for us and we ccan be on our way. But if we run a red and nobody sees us do it, did we actually do it in the first place? This has nothing to do with roadrage ... I am just tired of fealing nervous about running a light when I have been sitting there for five minutes at a solid red light.