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Virginia was the last state to OK motorcycles in HOV lanes. It took a Federal Law to get them to do it.



VA is the worst state I have ever lived in when it comes to motorcycle-friendliness.
 

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Since when has bureaucracy been considered "intelligent" anyway?



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Worst state, really? I havent lived in too many states but VA. doesnt seem so bad to me MC-wise. You've got to wear a helmet, sure, but I've never been pulled over and I've seen plenty of troopers and locals when I've been a tad over the speed limit. Maybe being 81 years old helps. They figure I can't possibly be dangerous I guess.



In a broader sense, i wish to state that I'm surprised Canada is lagging behind on the HOV thing. Generally, I look to Canada for progress and hope for the future, but not on this one evidently. The HOV lane on 95 up to DC has been open to single rider motorcycles for years.
 

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Don't forget that Canada is larger than the U.S. with only one tenth of the population. We also only have 4 cities with a population over 1 million: Toronto (5), Montreal (4), Vancouver (2) and Ottawa (1).



So the problem of heavy traffic is not really widespread and hasn’t really required government intervention before now.



 

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First off, is there a City/Province in Canada that doesn't have crappy city/provincial planners?

In Ontario and Ottawa in particular government, seems to be the 'release' area for the Bedlam asylum.

Ottawa has to be one of the worst run cities in Canada.

I was told that only 17% of the people that commute in Ottawa even take public transport. Why bother with it then?

Ottawa has kilometres of dedicated bus transit (think private 2 lane highways) road that only the buses can travel on. Not bicycles, not pedestrians, not anything but a city bus.

What kind of stupidity is that?

Motorcycles seem to be considered 'toys' in Canada. Maybe because they are restricted by our weather.

The Ministers response is pretty typical. Zero thought. What are the odds they even asked Toronto what they wanted? The only city in the province with a HOV, and the government passes laws that don't match the requirements. What's even worse is that the Provincial government seat of power, Queenspark, is IN Toronto.

Cue circus music.....
 

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That isn't an excuse or even a good reason. The bottom line is that we are apathetic, and that we aren't progessive.



With a population 10 times larger than us down south, the US is clearly showing us the problem areas.



Why are we experiencing the same problems?
 

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Don't be surprised. As far as I can tell Canada is very good at doing nothing. Especially the politicians; except lining there own pockets or bribing us with our own money.



I don't know if other cities are like Ottawa, but holy smokes, I've never seen so much BS in my life. As the Nation's capital you'd think there would be an effort to set a good example.
 

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Take two Asprins and call us in the morning.....



If you expect politicians to make sense, or even look out the window at what the rest of us see your mad.



Least you guys have good beer eh? The Guinness I drink is made in New Brunswick, and the Sardines I live off come from Canada, Can't be all bad if you have beer and fishies
 

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You guys have a couple things going for ya. Micheal Moore loves Canada better than the US, and all our movie stars are all going to move there real soon. Now if we could just get them to go............
 

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"Can't be all bad if you have beer and fishies"

Dear God, there must be something in the food up here. I thought it was just a cultural thing for us.

The way you sound right now you could be C anadian!

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Thanks for the compliments, and I think you're right on the points you list, but... We pay through the nose for it. And the accountability is non-existant.

It's difficult for people outside of Canada to see the inner crap, but believe me it is there.

Canada has a lot of potential, it's just under utilized.

I don't know about owning the rest of the US, but I'd settle for the Virgin Islands, California, and Star Bucks. Maybe New York.

Actually, I know a few people that won't buy goods from Walmart or Home Depot because they are American. Sort of ironic considering we have Quebec.

American companies are everywhere in Canada. Hell we don't even have our own car company.

What's a revolution between drinking buddies anyways?
 
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