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DMG Announces Double Daytona Superbike Races, New Purse
Friday, February 05, 2010
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AMA Pro Racing Announces Daytona 200 Purse, Schedule and Entry Extension

DAYTONA BEACH, FL (February 5, 2010) - AMA Pro Racing and the Daytona International Speedway are pleased to announce the comprehensive purse structure and schedule of events for the March 3-5 Daytona 200 Week at the world famous Daytona International Speedway.

The $225,000 total purse features an enhanced payout for the premier AMA Pro Racing National Guard American SuperBike class that will feature two races this year, the first of which will be on Thursday, March 4th and the new, second race on Friday, March 5th. The two 15-lap races will feature purse payouts being paid from 1st to 15th place.

The historic Daytona 200 AMA Pro Racing Daytona SportBike presented by AMSOIL race will be once again held under the lights on Friday night, March 5th. The 57-lap race will feature prize money for 1st through 20th place with $20,000 going to the winner of this prestigious event as well as a place in the history books joining many of the greatest names in motorcycle racing.

The 2010 Daytona 200 Week will also see two AMA Pro Racing SuperSport races. The first 12-lap race will be Thursday, March 4th and the second 12-lap race will be Friday afternoon, March 5th. These races are sure to be exciting as the AMA Pro SuperSport Young Gun riders go up against more experienced local AMA Pro Racing Top Gun riders.

Other features of the event include the always popular Thursday, March 4th rider autograph session and the many fan-friendly activities around Daytona International Speedway.

Also announced today is the extension of the registration deadline for the Daytona 200 Week events. The deadline for entering the event is now February 12, 2010.
 

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Wonder if the bigger purse will intise more riders?
 

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Oh you mean the Factories that get free championships( like Seru says). Least they have put in the time and effort to try and make the series have a future, instead of tearing it down.
 

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I didn't say "free" I said "fixed". Kawasaki's recent tantrum proved that. "Promise us a Championship or we go home, boo hoo hoo."
Ah thats why Tommy Hayden won his championship, because it was fixed. It must have not been due to any of his riding talant,...right.
 

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Well yes, but....

Say you're Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, and you're asked to run 600cc bikes. Then a fairly mediocre rider is given "Bike X" with 2X the displacement and a big torque and horsepower benefit and he starts running away with it. And it gets so bad the race organizers start stuffing lead in the fairing of "Bike X" to keep it from lapping 2ond and 3rd place riders. Where exactly is the payoff to participate? I've heard all the baloney about how a 1125cc Buell is somehow equal to a 600cc bike and it's just that: baloney.

I don't blame them for bailing.
Other than last year when did a slower rider win because of his equiptment?
 

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All bikes have the exact same bore and stroke. No others need apply. Or we go home in a snit. AMA racing is collapsing because it is corrupt. This is always the case. Just keep looking and more will out.

Or was "stop the race because Mladin fell" an example of honest even handed racing?
Your avoiding the question, Tommy Haydens Championship was fixed, by Kawasaki. Explain that? Youve made these claims for awhile, if its that consistant there should be alot more examples other than the ones youve mentioned.
 

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No examples huh, thats what I figured. Look the Japanese have an advantage over anyone who doesnt have a full fledged operation, more than even a satalite team for that matter. Is that the advantage you speak of? Is it possibly the total number of years, experience, and set up notes they have, plus the money to hire the best riders and all the endless equiptment. Cause that advantage I can see, fixed races or Championships I can't.
 

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Oh please it was a joke, I know you don't own a Harley,...
yet!
 

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Okay. Enough fun. Tiger first. Then Ironhead. I'm looking at a 2007 Tiger Saturday.

As far as this racing BS goes I go back to the 60s. Remember "On Any Sunday"? Remember the amount of factory support that Mert Lawill got from HD? Virtually zero. While racing was poverty struck back then it was also a situation where any kid could dream and aspire to be a racer. All that changed with the advent of motorcycling popularity and the huge amounts of cash involved. Racing went from an enthusiast level to a factory level. Now one must get lots of sponsorship money to even think of competing. The bikes have become so sophisticated that most people are locked out. Even dirt racing is getting waaaay too expensive with the fragile new 4-strokes.

Along with the more expensive tech we also have the involvement of some of the world's larger corporations. Honda and Kawasaki, each dwarfs Suzuki and Yamaha as corporations and each of the 4 dwarfs HD which again Dwarfs Ducati. These companies now spend money unheard of in AMA racing of the mid 20th Century. They use their power to influence rule making in an attempt to cook the rules in their own favors. Who can compete with that? So, while yes individual racers are competent and so on it doesn't change the pernicious influence of the large wads of cash. AMA road racing has become more like a rich man's club. Factories intimidate the racing association for rule changes that favor them over privateers. It even reached a point where the supersport bikes all had the same bore and stroke. Today privateers have virtually no chance because for all the posturing the rules still allow vast advantages for the factories.

So, maybe the AMA doesn't distribute the Championships but we effectively had a situation where Kawasaki pursued Supersport. Suzuki mainly concentrated on Superbike. Honda and Yamaha expend more effort in MotoGP and so on. This provides virtually guaranteed Championships for each manufacturer's ad copy. Well, I think it sucks. Until effective action is taken to even the field some then the AMA can kiss my @ss. So can HondaYamhKawaZuki.

There are still local flat track races which blow AMA roadracing out of the water for excitement. Until the AMA fixes it, which I doubt they ever will, then AMA road racing for me is a big yawn. Anyhow that's the way I feel about it. I want to see regular talented people to be able to compete again. I doubt I ever will.
For me unless you show me some serious proof, the only advantage the Factories have is just that,... " A Friggin Factory ". Thinking just because you have tons of money and are rich doesnt mean their going to sell you thier special parts, that outcome should be obvious to people such as MJ.( In this era )

From what Iv read, and experienced, I dont think the Factories get any advantage other than their many countless years of experience, know how, and knowledge, plus a factory full of parts milling machings and engineers. Imho thats the difference.

I'v been and still am good friends with one of the second tech's to examine every top three finisher in the AMA in 2001 and as far as real cheating thats provable, from the Factories- is minute and miniscule and most times never unveiled. The exception was two years ago (?) when everyones crank didn't measure up or was found illegal. (Rap,Hacking,Mladin).

I know what your speaking of in the 60's, everyone knows how it was, it was the hay-day of motorcycle racing, and thats over now. It will never come back. All we and yourself can do is watch "On Any Sunday" to re-live those times, as epic as they were.

If you havent taken notice riders have come through the ranks albeit harder then what your era afforded, they have made it into the lime light. Even with the odds against the US, the American riders have made a hugh impact- one which is undeniable. Its a harder road to travel no doubt- but that just makes the prize even more attractive.

Bottom line is I need proof to your accusations of lining pockets and bending rules other than "everyone waiting for Mladin to remount a new bike after some crash".
 
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