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Update: You're right bro, what was I thinking ... Suzuki wouldn't allow Cagiva to bring 'em into the States with the TL lump! The two I know of locally that are still for sale have Ducati 2Vs in 'em and they're priced right at $7925.00. FWIW, the dealership is Lyle Lovett Motorsports in Houston, Texas, 281-530-8600, ask for Billy Pine.



Yet another of those "wish I had the spare change" moments... :)



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Later Cran Canyouns did not come with TL engines. They modified the Gran Canyon to fit the TL engine and called it a Navagator. Suzuki would not let Cagiva sell their motorcycles in the US with Suzuki engines.
 

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You don't want "fatitude" but you'd buy a GS! Having had the opportunity to sit on a DL and make imaginary TL motor noises, I can't imagine ever buying a bloated, underpowered, over-priced lard butt like the GS. I weighs 150 lb MORE than a DL!



Plus, sitting on the DL, a lot of its design makes sense. The wider fairing provides protection from the elements, the seat is fairly low slung but with plenty of room, the foot pegs are well placed for long-distance travel (try that on a TL after a knee surgery or two). and the handlebars are placed low and forward for control when you wheelie past the GS riders;-)



Get your attitude where you want it, I'll take a TL!
 

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The only other bike I've seen reviewed with mufflers that high were fully insulated against heat. So, no thigh burns on your passenger.



The pics I've seen on the inside of the 2002 Suzuki brochure show a SOFT bag right up to the exhaust.
 

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So, DL1000 or B12?

I notice in the article that the Strom seems to be built already with good suspension.

The B12 is about $1,300 cheaper list, but from what I've been reading, any serious touring with the B12 should have upgrades to the suspension, so when all is said and done, either bike will have about the same cost if you're like me and want a sport-tourer.

I'm kind of impressed by all the mods people have done to the B12 actually, but what do you guys think, will the Strom be worth the extra $$$?

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Talked to my dealer Thur. March 14th,and the DL-1000's are shipping from Calif. on the 22nd. and should be here in the southeast by the 28th or 29th. Yea right.



I am on the bubble as to which bike I should buy and am waiting to see how well the V-Strom is put together. The other bike looking at is the BMW R1150R.

Any other suggestions?



I thought about a ZRX1200, and Triumph Sprint ST but they are not that well suited for the two up riding that I will be doing.
 

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You and I are considering the same bikes (minus the Z-Rex). I'd have to say, based on what I've read, that the V-Strom may be the best of the three. And the cheapest. Hope it handles well, though. Josh Norem didn't think too much of it in the current Motorcyclist.
 

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Should I replace my 92 TDM?

It's just getting broke in at 52,000 miles, and runs nicer than my 01 Sportster (someone please buy it), especially at 125 on twisty loose gravel Alaskan Roads. Will the V-Strom be more fun?
 

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Read a more detailed report from South African website which says that V Strom weak link is the front forks, making it a bit unstable on bumps in corners. Also at high speed bike is not planted. That being said I am going to buy one anyway:) If you want to tour and still have a sporty type bike you might consider the BMW RT, which is expensive but better than you might think in twisties. Cops use them too in CA.
 

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Cycle World just loved the V-Strom in its World's Best Streetbike article. They gave the title to the Honda Interceptor, but it was quite close. It's sort of hard to consider those two bikes in the same category at all, but that's sure the way it came out in the Cycle World article.
 

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Before I get started, I think I should mention that I'm so pissed at Suzuki, for what they didn't do to the SV1000, I don't know if I'll be able to give an un-biased opinion, about anything they do, for the forseeable future. But, what the hell, here goes.







First: As far as the new, Telefonica Suzukis go, I haven't ridden one, so all I can comment on is the paint-job. Ahem! Here's my opinion: Giving a serious, sport bike (that you're probably going to beat the crap out of) a fancy paint-job, is like decorating a hand-grenade. The way I figure things, it's gonna need repainting, not too long after the break-in period, so why bother (But, then, I'm the guy who called "Rhino Liner" to see if they'd paint his bike).





Now, for the V-Strom. Since I took my ride on a V-Strom, close to a year ago, I would guess that Suzuki is bringing a whole, new V-Strom to the States. So, what I'm about to say may, or may not be useful. But, since I'm sitting in front of the computer, anyway, I might as well keep typing.



One of the great things about being 50 is that, unlike you kids, I can generally walk into a Bike Shop, kick some tires, show the sales-manager some pictures of my grandchildren (which may, or may not be real) ask for some keys, and actually have them handed to me (if only the knew). That's how I found myself on a V-Strom, heading for very, windy road, near by the Bike Shop.



I've got a 28" inseam; so, right of the bat, the seat's too high, for me. Once in the seat, it's too hard. I don't mean, Honda (about as comfortable as a High Colonic, hard) but, for a bike that's meant to have some serious miles put on it, the seat could use some work.



Appearence: Ugly! Okay, real ugly....Butt, ugly? That'll do.



As for everything else (and you have no idea how much it pains me to say this) The V-Strom is a dream. It's your basic Swiss-Army-Bike. Ask, and you shall recieve.



If I were allowed to own only one bike (but for the fact that I'd be constantly dropping it at red-lights, due to the seat-height) the V-Strom would be it.



Now, for the SV1000 (here it comes). It might have...It could have...It should have been awesome. Hell, far as I'm concerned, Suzuki could have re-badged the TL1000R, given it a new shock-system, then turned it loose, as the SV1000R. But, if they really wanted to do things right, Suzuki should have stuffed the TLR engine into the old, SV frame, then put a state-of-the-art suspension under it. After that, who cares what they called it?



By the way, I'm a bit miffed at all you young-uns who (by purchasing in-line-four-liter-bikes) have pushed the market away from the (in my opinion) much more ridable V-twins. Now, all that 's left to us V-twin junkies are a handful of expensive, and unreliable Europeans, and a few Japanese, after thoughts (the RC51, being the one, possible, exception).
 
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