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"Looks to me like Triumph isn't playing the,"let's all introduce the same motorcycle at the same time, so we can all stay in business together" game the way the Japanese do."



Huh? Why would any of the Japanese want their competitors to stay in business? And since when do they all introduce all their products at the same time? And since when are they all making the same motorcycle?
 

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You missed my point. The point is that no one will buy a fast, ugly multi-cylinder cruiser, because it is ugly. It doesn't matter how fast it is- you could give this bike (or the Rune) 400hp and people still wouldn't buy it. If you understood anything about cruisers you would know this. Style is king in this game, hp is not.
 

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No, going after the segment ruled by Harley is the smartest thing they could do, because that's where 95% of the customers are at. Creating their own completely new segment is extremely difficult, slow, and costly.
 

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You seem incapable of understanding that just because hp isn't the first priority doesn't mean it isn't important on some level.



If you think that cruisers are worthless crap because hp isn't a first priority, then by your reasoning your bike is equally worthless crap unless you own a Hayabusa, since to you hp is king. So tell me, why did you settle for a lesser bike?



 

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That's exactly my point. Very few people will buy this (or any) bike simply because of the power- they have to like the styling also. Some people will, but I think most people won't. That's why I think that blanket statements that this bike will sell only because of the power are incorrect.



 

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I' m not sure if I am the one you are referring to, but if so, I'm not saying that different is bad- in this case, different is ugly and ugly will not sell. If someone can make a non V-Twin cruiser that looks good, more power to 'em. It just hasn't really happened yet.
 

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By the way, have you ever ridden any of the new performance cruisers? They will embarass a 600 in any roll-on under 100 mph, and for an average skilled rider they will be quicker up to 60 from a stop. To me that's pretty fast.

 
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