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New V max in 2007?
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I'd love to see it. Interesting times.
i test-rode a rocket iii and it was WAY fun, 'cept my feet kept parachuting off the pegs at speeds above 100 (don't tell the dealer). if yamaha can top the rocket then i think they should. screw the safety-crats and their anal-retentive hand-wringing. bring on the Big Iron.
but what i REALLY would lust for is the rocket iii engine in a touring platform. there aren't enough "Os" in "toooorque" to describe that engine, and as such it could rewrite performance standards for touring bikes. i love my K1200LT but the motor is pretty anemic. i figure a rocket would wake it up nicely, at the cost of a rather severe hike in tire spinage (and therefore replacement costs).
so bring on the rocket iii tourer and shoehorn the max into a touring bike too, while you're at it.
but what i REALLY would lust for is the rocket iii engine in a touring platform. there aren't enough "Os" in "toooorque" to describe that engine, and as such it could rewrite performance standards for touring bikes. i love my K1200LT but the motor is pretty anemic. i figure a rocket would wake it up nicely, at the cost of a rather severe hike in tire spinage (and therefore replacement costs).
so bring on the rocket iii tourer and shoehorn the max into a touring bike too, while you're at it.
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IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THE NEW V MAX COMES OUT IN 2006. A V MAX WITH 200HP SOUNDS JUST GREAT MR YAMAHA. DONT DELAY IT JUST BECAUSE SOME SISSIES CANT HANDLE YAMAHA POWER.
You guys'll forget all about that wimpy V-Max if I bid on and win this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1977...565506906QQcategoryZ50002QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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200HP V MAX!! I WANT ONE ASAP. NOT 2007 BUT 2006 PLEASE.
I dunno. There's an article on www.triumphrat.net about a new motorcycle accident study and how it's being funded. I think they got the article from the AMA. Everyone thought that was great, but one person pointed out that the study will inevitably address the fact that there are 150- and 200-hp bikes out there, available for a very reasonable sum ... I, for one, I'm very worried about the safetycrats...
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On the 8th day God created the V-Max
Great to see they are keeping God's chosen configuration. 4 cylinders provides firing order balance. The V provides the finishing touch.. On the 8th day God created the V-4 for the Inceptor and V-Max and saw that is was good. On the 9th day he smoked a Harley VRod on Pinks
Great to see they are keeping God's chosen configuration. 4 cylinders provides firing order balance. The V provides the finishing touch.. On the 8th day God created the V-4 for the Inceptor and V-Max and saw that is was good. On the 9th day he smoked a Harley VRod on Pinks
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What's firing order balance? Please define as I have never heard of that term.
Do you mean primary and/or secondary balance? THAT I understand. Simple Kinematics.
Your inline 4 won't have perfect balance. You can get either primary or secondary balance, but not both. That is why you see balance shafts in 4 cylinder engines (in cars). To be balanced, you need it.
See http://www.designofmachinery.com/DOM/Page675.pdf
What kind of engineer are you, anyway? My guess is software.
I'll get off of your case now. Too little sleep and a slow work day.
What's firing order balance? Please define as I have never heard of that term.
Do you mean primary and/or secondary balance? THAT I understand. Simple Kinematics.
Your inline 4 won't have perfect balance. You can get either primary or secondary balance, but not both. That is why you see balance shafts in 4 cylinder engines (in cars). To be balanced, you need it.
See http://www.designofmachinery.com/DOM/Page675.pdf
What kind of engineer are you, anyway? My guess is software.
I'll get off of your case now. Too little sleep and a slow work day.
Re: On the 8th day God created the V-Max
V4's are great.
I had an original Saber. It was a piece of crap. It took mighty Honda a couple of years to get it right. Stuffing V4's into bikes isn't easy. They are necessarily more complex, as well as more expensive to manufacture. The Sabre was a pain to work on, and oh boy, did that top end need work.
Anyway V4's are still great.
I am amazed that there is not a single one in automobile production and I am not sure there has EVER been one. Certainly not in the modern era. It is insane to me that there are all these sub 3 liter V6s out there and no V4's.
Then again, who am I to question every auto design team in the world.
V4's are great.
I had an original Saber. It was a piece of crap. It took mighty Honda a couple of years to get it right. Stuffing V4's into bikes isn't easy. They are necessarily more complex, as well as more expensive to manufacture. The Sabre was a pain to work on, and oh boy, did that top end need work.
Anyway V4's are still great.
I am amazed that there is not a single one in automobile production and I am not sure there has EVER been one. Certainly not in the modern era. It is insane to me that there are all these sub 3 liter V6s out there and no V4's.
Then again, who am I to question every auto design team in the world.
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What kind of engineer are you, anyway? My guess is software. No I design cupholders ...
Firing order balance is defined by Kawasaki in promo material as the inherent balance from a 4 cyclinder 4 cycle engine.. i.e while one cylinder is in compression, another is in exhaust, another in intake, another in combustion. No potato potato, In addition 90 degree Vs have good primary balance right????
"With a sufficient number (m) of cylinders, properly arranged in banks of n cylinders in a
multi-bank engine,* an engine can be inherently balanced. In a two-stroke engine with
its crank throws arranged for even firing, all harmonics of shaking force will be balanced
except those whose harmonic number is a multiple of n. In a four-stroke engine with its
crank throws arranged for even firing, all harmonics of shaking force will be balanced
except those whose harmonic number is a multiple of n/2."
What kind of an engineer are you my guess is mechanical. No I have done both hardware (electronic) and software B.S. E.E. and M.S. C.S. (working on it)..P.S, I got As in Statics, Dynamics, Thermo, and Mechanics of Materials Nana Nana Naner...M.Es only wish they were EE
What kind of engineer are you, anyway? My guess is software. No I design cupholders ...
Firing order balance is defined by Kawasaki in promo material as the inherent balance from a 4 cyclinder 4 cycle engine.. i.e while one cylinder is in compression, another is in exhaust, another in intake, another in combustion. No potato potato, In addition 90 degree Vs have good primary balance right????"With a sufficient number (m) of cylinders, properly arranged in banks of n cylinders in a
multi-bank engine,* an engine can be inherently balanced. In a two-stroke engine with
its crank throws arranged for even firing, all harmonics of shaking force will be balanced
except those whose harmonic number is a multiple of n. In a four-stroke engine with its
crank throws arranged for even firing, all harmonics of shaking force will be balanced
except those whose harmonic number is a multiple of n/2."
What kind of an engineer are you my guess is mechanical. No I have done both hardware (electronic) and software B.S. E.E. and M.S. C.S. (working on it)..P.S, I got As in Statics, Dynamics, Thermo, and Mechanics of Materials Nana Nana Naner...M.Es only wish they were EE
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Yes it pays well love the tax cut W gave me...
Yes it pays well love the tax cut W gave me...
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