I wonder how many places have to put up with freaking whiners. They did not force donations, they asked. The ones that could afford it and value the site donated, and the ones who chose not too did not. I have used this analogy before, but ALL OF US probably piss away 2 bucks per day on BS (coffee, pop, cigs,etc.). Why not throw $10.00 at MO..? Worthy of it, good guys, nice site. WTF is the problem? the DOT com world has been built on expectation of profit. They are now facing the reality that they need to produce. This is just a weed out period. Hopefully good sites will not perish ( this one, but too bad about Radar)..I have pulled so much useful stuff off the web for free that if I have to toss in once in awhile, I will, and will be happy about it. Remember, the web, IMHO, is the single most important thing to happen to communications since the telephone or radio. Ride the wave, and enjoy. Support the good guys...And stop the whining....