Well I went out and priced compared a superglide and a v92c . All in all I think the victory was the better bike. You owe it to yourself to go check one out. The engine is much lower in the frame then a harley and as a result it handles better and is easier at a crawl. And de flames boss, de flames are really nice. If victory had introduced this bike initially just an inch lower they would have sold more units. I think the vegas will be victories first real victory. If you will.