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Excellent stuff

Well done gbrummett!

Great to see no major problems. Although having tested a Buell Cyclone myself I wonder if the Harley V-Twin vibration might cause mounts of other stuff to give way. Although that doesn't seem to be a problem with Harley's in general.

Your comments about 600s getting smoked by your bike are interesting. I guess I would expect off the line your bike would have a big advantage but after the 600 pilot hit 5000 RPMs in second you would be looking at his tail. My experience with a XB-12r on the freeway (using my 01 ZX-6R) was I could beat him on any roll-on range. My experience with an XB-9r in a twisties was that I had no problem keeping up him on anything and I have only 21,000 miles of experience. This guy had 20 years of riding cruisers and dirt bikes. So I guess I chalk up your comments to an enthusatic Bueller, and outdated big 4 experience and that's cool. Some advice would be not to ride a Big 4 600. So you can live in ignorant bliss forever.

I have challenged MO several times to compare 600s with the Buells. I suspect they will never do so cause every other mainstream magazine has been critical of the Buell and a critical review of the Bueller would mean no more Buell ads.



But given price/performance ratio of Big 4 600s, or 750s, I would never consider a Buell. In addition Buells lack of success in Formula Extreme where the rules are bent heavily in their favor is also more testimony of American marketing hype.
 

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Re: pushrod racing if you look at the times for Mid Ohio

Yep its a street fighter. But didn't JB and Sean said the 636 was like bringing knife to fist fight. JB I looked at the times at Barber and at Sanoma (Sear Pt Right) the Buells do OK. But if you combine the superport times and FX (Mid Ohio) times the Buells are rank down in the mid to late 20s. Why the Buells look good is cause Honda owns the FX Show. So JB you have a point all the factory, satellite teams and first class privateers can beat the Buells However the average privateer can't.
 

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I probably have a bad attitude.....

"a little race cred would go a long way it seems to me. one finish ahead of one of those hondas and i would pay attention, if not ten grand.

plus they sound great."

I agree. I have just read too much negative stuff about Buell by other mags so I am probably jaded. Given the amout a moneythough I would still use the 10 grand for a liter inline 4 bike.
 

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Re: I probably have a bad attitude.....

Yep Marc Cook and Boehm were both very critical. Sportsrider was critical as well. Cycle World was a little kinder. Motorcycle USA had a bracket go bad on a test bike so they were guarded about it. The Motorcycle Daily loved it but they like every bike.

I do notice you see more about mass centralization (part of the Buell holy trinity) in Japanese and BMW ad copy these days.
 

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An0ther old geezer speaks

I don't follow you. First answer the question. When was the last time you have been on a Japanese 600 and what year was it.? These things make 100+ hp now and the torque curve comes to play at 5000 to 6000 unlike the old days where you would have to go to 9000. That 636 must of been sick.... Read other reviews about the Buell in other mags or sites. Appreciate the Buell for what it is but it is no Ninja killer. Given that the average 600 is $2000 cheaper makes me laugh even more. [*] Remember 600s are surpassing Superbike times of a few years ago.
 

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Motorcycles for dummies and the Kept Man

'You know what the problem is with Buells. Guys like Kook and ZRXB just can't stand the fact that there is something different out there. " No I am trying to separate the propaganda from fact. I love the lines of the Buell, I don't think the engine is worthy of the design however. Maybe if you had a real job you would know how real men in the real world discuss and contrast things.
 

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More BS from the dwarfs it ain't a Ninja killer.

More BS from the dwarfs it ain't a Ninja killer.

The only way to settle this BS is to have Sean and the MO staff take a 636 and XB-12s/r and compare the two. So far everthing discussed here is conjecture and wishful thinking I suspect. Hey if the XB kicks butt I'll be the first to admit I am wrong.
 

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Re: Numbers don't lie, but KP does

More BS from the dwarfs the Buell ain't a Ninja killer.

The only way to settle this BS is to have Sean and the MO staff take a 636 and XB-12s/r and compare the two. So far everthing discussed here is conjecture and wishful thinking I suspect. Hey if the XB kicks butt I'll be the first to admit I am wrong.
 

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It's put up or shut up time for Buell

No this guys thinks he can spank a 636 even a 750. Stop back tracking Buell fans.

More BS from the dwarfs the Buell ain't a Ninja killer.

The only way to settle this BS is to have Sean and the MO staff take a 636 and XB-12s/r and compare the two. So far everthing discussed here is conjecture and wishful thinking I suspect. Hey if the XB kicks butt I'll be the first to admit I am wrong.
 
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