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One Year / 12,831 Miles on a 2004 Buell XB12s

39905 Views 149 Replies 38 Participants Last post by  bellsguns
Interesting report. I'd like to see more like this, especially for bikes I'm considering the purchase of.

Can you tell us how much the dealership services cost?
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Re: Excellent stuff

So the magazines publish a 0-60 of 2.9 for the Kawasaki and 3.6 for the Buell

Enough said. .7 seconds is an eternity
Re: twins are in

Yeah, but FHM didn't pick his twin. VWW
Re: twins are in

Oh Sean, my good bud, you asked for it.

I haven't seen you ride into work. Not on a bike (or should I be more specific and say motorcycle) you own.

Whatever you can tell me about bikes you have owned, I can only take with a grain of salt . I'll believe it when I see it. I for one, if I had ever owned a CBR600F4i, even though I've only ridden one a couple of times myself, would still have enough sense not to go racing full tilt on worn out tires. Oh remind me, great owner of vast numbers of motorcycles, how did that turn out for you?

Look, I really don't care. I know your deal, and I don't mean to be an arsehole. I just figured that if you were going to try your hand at comedy at my expense, I would be amiss if I didn't give back as good as you gave. Big leaguer.

And I didn't mean to imply the bikes chosen by FHM are bad in any way, or that those twins in anyway, whatsoever, are anything less than cool in someone else's book. But not a single one of those bikes (save possibly the CityX), regardless of how they may totally outperform me, would make my list of "cool wheels" that I would publish as such in a magazine. Not even the Duc. Someone beat that thing with a generic stick.

And lastly Sean, let's be a little bit more specific. Unlike the other motorcycles listed by FHM, my bike is a parrallel twin. I think most riders who are so experienced would point out the difference.

Wink. Wink. Konichiwa beeotch.
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Re: twins are in

Yet find a Kawasaki rep and ask him about the Ninja 250. The one I spoke to at Kawi headquarters in Irvine told me they sell every one they make and can't keep them in stock.

If you noticed, I referred to FHM basing there evaluations on pose value. Consider the average male, non-motorcyclist, who reads FHM. What bikes did they put in there? All bikes with high pose value attractive to the average, mob-mentalitied, corporatized, conspicuosly-consumping, male-sheep. Harley and Ducati, hold incredible pose value in name alone, the others are cruisers whichl harken to the outlaw-conformist yuppie lawyer, a scooter for the metrosexual urbanite, and the Buell, which is damn cool. The jab was meant at FHM not at the bikes.

I like twins. I love my parrallel twin.
Re: You'll drive yourself crazy

Get a load of the idiot. Who cares what a magazine says is the Ninja's 0-60 time? Kook would be lucky to come in under 6 secs.

He's too busy talking to demons to actually coordinate a clutch, gear shift and throttle effectively.
I betta ya

Sean says your twin is 0 degree V-Twin. He stuck up for mile_eater when mile eater said the Valkerie had a V configuration. Sean said it had a 180 degree V configuration. Slimey bastard.
Re: You'll drive yourself crazy

I'm trying to go easy on him because he's been on his best behavior lately. However, he's starting to reply to himself and post the same thing in multiple spots.

On the bright side, at least it's motorcycle related!

Would Michael Moore be faster on a ZX6 or a Buell?
Thanks for the honest rider's log. A few editorial comments...

You state that after reducing the oil level the bike seemed even quicker, but say that the 3rd gear 60mph-80mph roll-on time is 2.5 seconds, which is a half second slower than the 2 seconds stated earlier.

You also state that the torque before and after race kit is 72 FT-LBs and at the same engine speed (rpm), but the factory dyno chart to which you refer shows stock torque of about 77 FT-LBs at 6,200 rpm while the race kit torque of 82 FT-LBs hits at 5,400 rpm.

The race kit certainly made a huge difference yielding an additional 10 rwhp through a significant portion of the upper mid portion of the rev range.

I want an XB12R!!!
Nice job, GB. As you know, I'm a fan of the XB12. Good to hear it's holding up its end of the bargain.
Re: twins are in

Hey Nplateau, I'm with you on this one. Rags like FHM pander to poseurs, and they didn't pick my BMW flat twin (Sean would call it a 180 degree v twin) either. BTW I like both the 500 and 250 Kawasaki twins. VWW
Re: A typical day for a real man.

What in the blue hell would you know about a real man? For cryin out loud, you live in a city that made latte sipping nancyboys famous.

Hey.. enjoy your work tomarrow... I'll be in the shop making my son a toddler bed. Poplar.. medium stain... it'll be nice.

I may handload some .308 too. 32.2 grains of IMR 3031.. cci 200 primer... Speer HPBT.. .5 inch groups at 100 yards. Not bad eh?
Re: twins are in

4VWW says: "(Sean would call it a 180 degree v twin)"

I would? I've never considered myself "Geometrically Challenged". The post you are refering to indicates that I was speaking of "others" on the 180° twin topic.
Re: Numbers don't lie, but KP does

The Kawasaki WILL NOT go 0-60 in 2.9 seconds, when the rider simply rolls-on the throttle. Not from 5,000RPM and not even from 9,000RPM. That's a simple fact. -Sean

I did, care to show me where?
Re: Twins for Dummies and MO editors

I said "twin", not V-twin.

Speaking of twins, why don't you go back and re-read my posting where you claim that I stated a horizontally opposed engine was a V-twin. If you can comprehend it, you will notice that I did NOT say that I considered horizontally opposed twins to be V-twins, I simply stated that some "Geometrically Challenged" people have called them 180° V-twins. I even went so far as to say that in reality a 180° would equal a straight line. Get your facts straight, or go home. -Sean
Assertion Confirmed

Thanks. You start that blog yet?
Re: You'll drive yourself crazy

Going toward or away from Macdonalds?
Sean, now I know a little bit about how you feel


Sorry to burst your bubble, but I’m just your normal overly enthusiastic motorcyclist and not a paid moto-journalist, who just happened to take the time to write down my experiences and submit it.

Thank you for pointing out my mistakes, next time I will be sure to forward my submissions to you for editing first.

What is your e-mail address???
Re: Excellent stuff

Good article. But if somebody gets the impression that current 600 are marginally faster than XB12s they are wrong. If we check the cold numbers, the good old quarter mile results, Honda 600F4i beats XB12s by 0.95 sec.

In layman's terms: "not even close".

In fact even GoldWing is nearer to Buell's ball park as it is only 0.60 sec slower.

- cruiz-euro
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