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I have always felt very dissappointed by any game or computer simulation, motorcycle or airplane. It's hard to compete with the real thing sitting in your garage.
 

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Not since the release of Diablo has a single game consumed so much of my time. Back then, my grades suffered, now, it's less time at work and strained inter-personal relationships. Oh well.



The simple fact is that no computer can ever provide the challenge that other humans can. Every racing game I have ever played was able to be mastered such that it was all but impossible for you to win. The ability to race against an entire field of human beings is what will make this game one of the best ever. Even my non-riding friends can't get enough of it.
 

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Unfortunately, I have played MotoGP and I lost interest after about an hour, especially after being weaned on Gran Tourismo 1,2 and 3. All other motorsports games simply pale in comparison to the absolutely perfect compromise of realism vs. playability in GT. In my humble opinon, motorcycle riding is much harder to simulate in a way that is at once both playable and believeable.



I did think that a handlebar-type force-feelback controller with twist throttle and brakeand clutch levers (similar in principle to the steering-wheel controllers that one can get for car games) might make it more interesting. Riding a motorcycle is a total-body experience, with much more than your hands and feet working to control it. Therefore I don't think the controls translate to a normal game controller as well as they do with a car.



Or you could just throw up your hands and put up a linux Counter-Strike server. You'd probably have 10 times as many players with that anyway.
 

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MotoGP is a good racing game. Being able to race 15 opponents online makes it great. Count me as another addicted player. (Gamer tag Lowrez)



As to Gran Tourismo, it truely is a wonderful game. Something has to be said for a video game that helps get the Lancer Evo exported to the United States.
 

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MotoGP not so hot

MotoGP was one of the first games I bought for my xbox. It's OK, but like any track based racing game, it gets boring going around and around. I wish somebody would make a motorcycle race game with enduro style overland routes like rallisport challenge or across a city with traffic to avoid. I've seen old PC games that had some of these features, but nothing with current graphics technology. Realism is great - but I actually have a real bike that I ride sanely and carefully. When I'm playing a motorcycle game, I want to be able to do crazy stuff that wouldn't be safe or legal in real life.
 

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Get someone to write a new game.

How about a "Commuting in LA" MC game? The rider would have to avoid car doors opening while lane splitting and road ragers with .357 Smith and Wessons. Plus the action could include random assaults by the Crips and the Bloods armed with AK-47s. Throw in the occasional land mine or wire strung across the road. Obstacles like abandoned subway construction sites could be included too. Attacks by homos while riding through Griffith Park. Police who arrest you if caught for speeding and force you to submit to safety lectures by Dr. Laura.

Lots of possibilties here.
 

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more great ideas

Include erractically driving squids and rubbies on Mulholland Hwy, Tujunga Canyon and the Angeles Crest.

The squids go way too fast. You can tell them because they wear either the very latest protection gear or none at all. Sometimes they come at you from above when they slide off the road from higher elevations.

Rubbies can be identified by the perfect untarnished condition of their seldom ridden cruisers. The rubbies are usually drunk on Coronas. Their leathers are so stiff from disuse that they can barely pilot their lane-hogging lumps. The reflections from all the added chrome accents cause periods of blindness.

Extra Points for causing rubbies or squids to run into your enemies.
 

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I couldn't agree with you more. The more bells and whistles the games come with the less they seem to emulate the real thing too.



I've often wanted to try and mount a GAU avenger cannon on a Cessna 182 in Microsoft Flight Simulator. That might be fun.



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Re: more great ideas

It has always been my understanding that "squids" refers to terminally testosterone poisoned dudes with muscle shirts (or no shirts) intended to show off their multiple tattos, piercings, iron-pumped muscles, shorts, flip flops, bare hands and cool shades!

Rubbies....that's a totally new one for me. What does that stand for (?)....other than bar hopping, bear drinking, real men, flag-wavin' cruiser ridin' patriots of the good ole' US of A!
 

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Re: more great ideas

How do you drink Bear?

The only thing I can think of, fits right in with The Highwayman's homoerotic atrocteur postings.
 

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Rubbies is short for Rising Urban bikers. You know, the accountants and dentists who don long-haired wigs and ride their Heritage Specials and Fatboys that they paid $5000 over MSRP for. They are easily identifiable by the average mileage of less than 1000 per year on their odometers.

Also a dead giveaway is the absolutely perfect condition of their bikes and leathergoods, for those bikes with the digital odometers. (HD changed to digital odometers as a favor to these clowns to hide the embarassment of others seeing only 1785 miles on a 4 year old Harley.)
 

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Because it would make it fly as fast as a jet, as long as you mounted it backwards (and the wings didn't fall off).



We built a detector here once to assist in recovering rounds fired by A-10's during training exercises. Watching a GAU cannon at close range is an impressive sight. The pilots told us that recoil would cause the aircraft to stall if you weren't careful.
 

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I've worked in a building next to the one where they overhaul the 30mm cannons. I've watched some test firings. They cap off 100 rounds. Takes about a blink of an eye.



Very impressive. Very effective against SUVs, if I can figure how to mount one on my Suzuki.
 

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I think that the best motorcycle racing sim I ahve ever played is GP500. Unfourtunatly it never was released in the USA so a lot of gamers missed out on it. But it is a really good game, there are also lots of ppl online who update the game, so you can race GP500 althe way from 86 to 03 and probably beyond.
 

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I don't think you can host an Xbox live game on an Linux server farm, guys... I could be wrong, but the proprietary walls are up pretty high around the XB Live server traffic, and to good effect apparently: virtually zero lag, and no cheats.

And yes old-timers, we know a game ain't the same as the real thing. Believe it or not, that's the whole point of playing games. If it's fun, it's fun, no matter whether you're crushing the competition with a cartoon 90 ton walking tank or a virtual crotch rocket. Or checkers or a Monopoly board for that matter.
 

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I'm thinking some sort of HL Mod game would be great to host up here, even if it isn't motorcycle related. It'd give us chances to bond and meet each other, as well as avoid the prepubescent/highschool/idiotic servers that currently exist out there in cyberspace. All we would need is a password to keep n00bs out and we could start pwning each other. =D
 
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