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The Bimota isnt an openclass bike, it is raced in the Superbike class, traditionally 750cc fours, 900cc triples or 1000cc twins. Using that equation, you would have to have a 1333cc Bimota to fit in here. But, if you wanted to ignore that argument, you should also say "Where's the Daytona?"
Very interesting indeed. Yes, indeed. Ummmm, I am super high class. I think the dirtbike suspenders comment on the R1 was interesting. Its nice that you didnt cheerlead the GSXR just because it is by far the most powerful. But, for the bragging factor, the GSXR is the bike to have this year. I dont know why anyone would brag actually. These bikes are so fast and above my abilities on or off the road, I think I will just buy a TZ125. Wait, thats above my abilities too. Jeez.
The Bimota YB11
Actually, they make an open class bike (Granted, they aren't making anything anymore). I was thinking of the YB11, a 1002 cc in-line four. Technically, it is a little tiny bit larger displacment than the others here. But, given that every magazine tested the GSXR 750 with liter classers last year, I think it could be overlooked.
Actually, they make an open class bike (Granted, they aren't making anything anymore). I was thinking of the YB11, a 1002 cc in-line four. Technically, it is a little tiny bit larger displacment than the others here. But, given that every magazine tested the GSXR 750 with liter classers last year, I think it could be overlooked.
Open Bike Shootout-You guys are high!
Is this a joke? You guys must be high, inexperienced or just stupid putting the R1 above the GSXR and CBR. Not saying it's not a good bike, just outdated and clearly behind the GSXR and CBR. Catch a clue. I am sure you'll be hearing more from the masses.
Is this a joke? You guys must be high, inexperienced or just stupid putting the R1 above the GSXR and CBR. Not saying it's not a good bike, just outdated and clearly behind the GSXR and CBR. Catch a clue. I am sure you'll be hearing more from the masses.
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I agree. The bikes are far surpassing the abilities of the average rider out there. If these guys have the balls to say that the bike they tested is for the Rossi's of the world then they should be commended. Sometimes the biggest cojones belong to those who know when to scream "UNCLE!!!!". Nice time we live in now, eh, when what we buy is too good for us? Id swear that R1 I sat on one time was laughing at me.... Personally, I think my TL1000S is too much for me but that freakin torque is too much fun on the straightaways.
More about the ZX-9R's carburation glitch! This is probably the only US motorcycle publication I read and it's the only place I ever hear reference to this problem. Are you able to deduce as to whether this is a US only phenomenon, as I have never come accros any such glitches on 9R's I have owned or borrowed. One did come on a bit too aggressively from off throttle but I upped the idle by about 100rpm - problem solved.
P.S. I'm in Australia (lots of long roads).
P.S. I'm in Australia (lots of long roads).
Don't get all defensive on me now...
"just because a bike has more power," harped Calvin "HackFu" Kim, "doesn't mean it's a better bike." If you and/or the machine can't control that power, it'll only make you slower."
and:
"As powerful and precise as the GSX-R can be, it's also a handful to ride -- even professional motorcycle testers are wadding it in unprecedented numbers. "
Your words. I'm NOT capping on you for it, I think you're right.
"just because a bike has more power," harped Calvin "HackFu" Kim, "doesn't mean it's a better bike." If you and/or the machine can't control that power, it'll only make you slower."
and:
"As powerful and precise as the GSX-R can be, it's also a handful to ride -- even professional motorcycle testers are wadding it in unprecedented numbers. "
Your words. I'm NOT capping on you for it, I think you're right.
Re: Run this by an editor, not a spellcheck.....
I don't really have any complaints regarding the article's contents (although I was sure the GSXR would blow you guys over) I DO have problems with the editing. 3 *whilst*s and referring to Cycle News' as *there's two* instead of *theirs too* after wadding your Gixxer and *theirs also*. Maybe I'm being picky (I am) and maybe there's bigger stuff to worry about (there is) but with the unbelievable lack of proficiency with the language on the net, I would hope that those who write for a living could at least use the tools (i.e. the language) a bit better.
I don't really have any complaints regarding the article's contents (although I was sure the GSXR would blow you guys over) I DO have problems with the editing. 3 *whilst*s and referring to Cycle News' as *there's two* instead of *theirs too* after wadding your Gixxer and *theirs also*. Maybe I'm being picky (I am) and maybe there's bigger stuff to worry about (there is) but with the unbelievable lack of proficiency with the language on the net, I would hope that those who write for a living could at least use the tools (i.e. the language) a bit better.
After reading your article (and sensing the attitude it was written with) I don't understand why you didn't pick the Honda first. Most other journo's and riders seem to agree it has the best canyon carving (real world) manors .
Also interesting to see how CN and your opinions of the R1 vs. GSXR stock suspensions on the track differ 180 from Roadracing World (who I believe also didn't wad a gixxer)
Personally, I think the "open" class bikes are all about excess. Manufacturers offer entire product lines devoted to more streetable, more comfortable, sport touring etc. But the open class are the flagships, their way of saying this is the best we can do, and should be rated as such. If you buy a GSXR or an R1 and then complain after 150 miles that arms hurt then you are obviously a poor decision maker.
Your comments about most mortals not capable of the limits of these bikes while true doesn't make any sense. You could easily say the same things about the 600's. 98% of the buyers of any of these open class bikes are not capable of taking a R6, GSXR 6 or even a SV650 to it's limits so why should we worry here ?
I'm disapointed .... y'all are getting old
Guess it all depends on what your definition of what an open class bike should be....
Also interesting to see how CN and your opinions of the R1 vs. GSXR stock suspensions on the track differ 180 from Roadracing World (who I believe also didn't wad a gixxer)
Personally, I think the "open" class bikes are all about excess. Manufacturers offer entire product lines devoted to more streetable, more comfortable, sport touring etc. But the open class are the flagships, their way of saying this is the best we can do, and should be rated as such. If you buy a GSXR or an R1 and then complain after 150 miles that arms hurt then you are obviously a poor decision maker.
Your comments about most mortals not capable of the limits of these bikes while true doesn't make any sense. You could easily say the same things about the 600's. 98% of the buyers of any of these open class bikes are not capable of taking a R6, GSXR 6 or even a SV650 to it's limits so why should we worry here ?
I'm disapointed .... y'all are getting old
Guess it all depends on what your definition of what an open class bike should be....
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I tend to agree with Blue Dot's thoughts (I'm a poet and didn't know it) Open Class sportbikes, are about numbers.... the GSXR wins the numbers. This isn't a test of Supersports, or GTs. I will conceed however, that I would (and do) have more fun on the street / in the canyons, when riding nimble and flickable bikes like 600s and 929RRs
Good Job MO, I understand why you chose the R1. I "tried" to ride it (GSXR) and it made me feel like I was getting too old at 24. This thing is crazy. The Good ole R1 has the power but also has that nurturing effect when it saves you from killing yourself... sometimes.
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