Open Class bikes at the Track
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Did'n even read it yet.....
but I'll bet the Suzuki wins.
"I am the monarch of the sea......"
but I'll bet the Suzuki wins.
"I am the monarch of the sea......"
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Times seem dodgy.
Three seconds between 1st and second place? You don't get three seconds difference at most tracks between the 600's and open classers.
I was thinking of buying the Honda but now I'm not sure. I'll be spending most of my time at the track, and I don't mind the power deficit. But my style has me trail braking deep into corners and it dounds like the honda sucks at that. Me sad.
Now, I wonder who is going to win the comp now? Your drag section isn't really going to be much of a surprise. The Suzuki will blow em away followed by the Yamaha then the Honda coming last. Unless the Yammie does it's clutch.
Might as well call the overall now ( 1) Suzuki 2) Yamaha 3) Honda ) and be done with it.
The squids will be happy this year.
Three seconds between 1st and second place? You don't get three seconds difference at most tracks between the 600's and open classers.
I was thinking of buying the Honda but now I'm not sure. I'll be spending most of my time at the track, and I don't mind the power deficit. But my style has me trail braking deep into corners and it dounds like the honda sucks at that. Me sad.
Now, I wonder who is going to win the comp now? Your drag section isn't really going to be much of a surprise. The Suzuki will blow em away followed by the Yamaha then the Honda coming last. Unless the Yammie does it's clutch.
Might as well call the overall now ( 1) Suzuki 2) Yamaha 3) Honda ) and be done with it.
The squids will be happy this year.
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If I only had the ability to push any of these bikes to their limits, gee I might be dangerous then. I suppose in the hand of any amateur, all of these bikes are a top-pick depending on what kind of deal you can work out. I'm awaiting for Gixxer to lay the smackdown at the strip, but even them numbers won't tell me much. I see too many squids on liter-bikes that just can't launch, hell, I'd even be surprised if they could find the right gear for a roll-on.
Re: Times seem dodgy.
Not so quick there 'Sac old buddy...
Even if the strip times come out as you predict, that still doesn't take into account the very important subjective part of the equation -- as in which bike would we actually pay to own. Also, we'll put up a poll, a final news item and take reader input to determine the overall winner.
Minime
Not so quick there 'Sac old buddy...
Even if the strip times come out as you predict, that still doesn't take into account the very important subjective part of the equation -- as in which bike would we actually pay to own. Also, we'll put up a poll, a final news item and take reader input to determine the overall winner.
Minime
Not to spoil a plot of any sort, but we'll all be at the strip tomorrow night-- April 3 -- LACR in Palmdale to be sprcific. They have a Wednesday Night grudge Match thing going on there, and we figured, "what better way to test the drag strip abilities of each bike than to get out there and actually race them?" Should be a hoot. A gas. A good time for all. Aunt Mae brings a cake, et.al.
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Ok I understand people want to read about dirt bike testing. Here's my idea, a forth test of these bikes. The GSX1000, R1, and CBR954 versus the KLR650, F650, and Caponord on a dirt track. Talk about wheel spinning. Chills, spills, Honda rep's crying in background. We got us a dirt track date!
Possibly I shouldn't drink and then post...hmmm
Dave
Possibly I shouldn't drink and then post...hmmm
Dave
GSXR was pretty stable huh ? hmmm I seem to remember some readers arguing contrary.
(evil grin)
My real complaint about this (going back to last year) was that after all well deserved hype of the R1 over the past several years, for Suzuki to come out with a brand new bike and whomp the R1, THAT was worthy of OCS 1st place honors. Oh well
On side note: I sat thinking after reading an issue of CW tonight and wanting to opinionate or ask questions of some of the articles. It's very easy to take for granted that which is offered by MO. The ability to throw in my .02 anytime I please (and instantly) as well as read the opinions of the other subscribers is just one more reason that makes this service great.
(evil grin)
My real complaint about this (going back to last year) was that after all well deserved hype of the R1 over the past several years, for Suzuki to come out with a brand new bike and whomp the R1, THAT was worthy of OCS 1st place honors. Oh well
On side note: I sat thinking after reading an issue of CW tonight and wanting to opinionate or ask questions of some of the articles. It's very easy to take for granted that which is offered by MO. The ability to throw in my .02 anytime I please (and instantly) as well as read the opinions of the other subscribers is just one more reason that makes this service great.
I am a confessed squid. My skills on a bike are laughable and not yet legal (damn license requirements). Yet if I were given a choice, quite easily it would be the CBR.
Even comparatively underpowered, the CBR still produces enough horsepower and leads to such riding dynamics that even the most skilled canyoneers can still cut a bad notch carving. Let's not get too spoiled, 130 hp on a 400 lb machine is no joke.
As far as easy to use, tractable power, the Blade can give you more than you really need, but with what seems to be impeccable fuel-mapping, never more than what you're really asking for.
Great ergos for long rides and heavy, every day use make it far more appealing for those who would like to spend the bulk of their motile hours as close to flight as asphalt will allow.
For the sensible squid who allows for a flash of hooligan, the Honda is a alas, the balanced package.
On another note, I figure in about four to five years, a Kawi-Zook combined venture will shake us. Zook's B-king and 165 hp GSV-R in a couple of years will be amazing. Honda will surprise all of us with the power produced by the cbr 600 F5, and the next RR which I hear is going to be a 998 V5.
And please, if any of you have info on the gorgeous 2003 Gilera 600 Supersport, pass it along.
Even comparatively underpowered, the CBR still produces enough horsepower and leads to such riding dynamics that even the most skilled canyoneers can still cut a bad notch carving. Let's not get too spoiled, 130 hp on a 400 lb machine is no joke.
As far as easy to use, tractable power, the Blade can give you more than you really need, but with what seems to be impeccable fuel-mapping, never more than what you're really asking for.
Great ergos for long rides and heavy, every day use make it far more appealing for those who would like to spend the bulk of their motile hours as close to flight as asphalt will allow.
For the sensible squid who allows for a flash of hooligan, the Honda is a alas, the balanced package.
On another note, I figure in about four to five years, a Kawi-Zook combined venture will shake us. Zook's B-king and 165 hp GSV-R in a couple of years will be amazing. Honda will surprise all of us with the power produced by the cbr 600 F5, and the next RR which I hear is going to be a 998 V5.
And please, if any of you have info on the gorgeous 2003 Gilera 600 Supersport, pass it along.
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Guess that taught him a lesson
Unfortunately, his TZ250 decided to spit him off before we could get any timed laps on him aboard our CBR954.
TZ250s are known for their jealous rages. Is Roland all right? Has he made up with his bike?
If he carefully introduces the CBR954 to the TZ250, can the two bikes be friends so we can get some numbers next time?
Unfortunately, his TZ250 decided to spit him off before we could get any timed laps on him aboard our CBR954.
TZ250s are known for their jealous rages. Is Roland all right? Has he made up with his bike?
If he carefully introduces the CBR954 to the TZ250, can the two bikes be friends so we can get some numbers next time?
Re: Times seem dodgy.
Last year when I lived in San Jose I was handed my ass on Hwy 9 by guys on GSXR1000's when I was on my CBR929RR. This year I moved back to Minnneasota and I think I'm going to walk down to my local Suzuki dealer and buy me that 1000. Everyone wants R1's and 954's maybe this year they'll be dealing.
Last year when I lived in San Jose I was handed my ass on Hwy 9 by guys on GSXR1000's when I was on my CBR929RR. This year I moved back to Minnneasota and I think I'm going to walk down to my local Suzuki dealer and buy me that 1000. Everyone wants R1's and 954's maybe this year they'll be dealing.
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Whole new world
In this web-zine the responses are as important as the staff-generated content. Defficiencies (perceived or real) in the articles are balanced by the subscribers input and direct response from the staff.
I think MO is onto something new and great.
In this web-zine the responses are as important as the staff-generated content. Defficiencies (perceived or real) in the articles are balanced by the subscribers input and direct response from the staff.
I think MO is onto something new and great.
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Cheers to the hooligan! I love the edge of the gixxer and I am glad to see Suzuki doing what they do best; Making a track worthy hooligan that sucks on the street. Things never change.
Larry
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Re: Times seem dodgy.
Gawd!!! A poll is going to be part of the judging process???? My GSXR riding buddy and all his cronies will be here voting 1000 times to get his bike into 1st place.
That seems to be one thing Yamaha and Honda can't compete with. While they have their supporters, they seem nowhere near as rabid as the Suzuki disciples.
I just hope for your sake you don't go overboard with the subjective ratings. If you give 1000 points to the Yammie and have it winning again, the Suzuki squids will burn you all at the stake.
Gawd!!! A poll is going to be part of the judging process???? My GSXR riding buddy and all his cronies will be here voting 1000 times to get his bike into 1st place.
That seems to be one thing Yamaha and Honda can't compete with. While they have their supporters, they seem nowhere near as rabid as the Suzuki disciples.
I just hope for your sake you don't go overboard with the subjective ratings. If you give 1000 points to the Yammie and have it winning again, the Suzuki squids will burn you all at the stake.
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