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Subculture called 'canyon racers?' Is there such a thing? The people who attacked the police officer should be hung by their toes, but it sounds a little like the sheriff may be lumping riders together as if we are part of some kind of criminal gang.



I hope the officer is OK, that the perpetrators get caught, and that the sheriff and public at large understand that one jerk does not make for a criminal subculture.
 

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Is it just me, or is this a perpetuation of stereotyping bikers? Canyon racers my @$$. Those guys were motorcycle thieves.
 

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Ok so I see alot of news about the two sportbike riders that assaulted (injuered)a police officer in California.

But where are all the news articles and public outrage about the police officer that deliberately ran a motorcyclist off the road in TN. and killed him.

I see alot of hypocritical hoopla about how motorcyclists are always stereotyped but you know what the media is the main culprit doing the stereotyping, and I feel especially strongly about this since it seems this DOG GONE! motorcycle news website right here seems to be perpertrating this same type of stereotyping.
 

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Just curious but what were the of the incident in TN. Was the motorcyclist running from the police?



Not saying it's ok for the police to run bikes off the road simply because they refuse to pull over. I'm just curious as to what really happened there? Was it an accident or did the police officer intend to run him off?



I've seen film of riders running from the police then slaming the brakes on so hard and fast the police can't stop in time and end up running into the rider. In this scenerio I really can't feel for the rider because he was 100% in the wrong. Provide a URL if there is one or any info on what took place.
 

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http://www.knoxnews.com/news/25470.shtml

This link is to the news story about the Tennessee incident -- officer involved had two prior similar incidents on his record.

It seems its much easier for the public and the general press to lump all motorcyclists into a few easy categories, assuming all sportbikers are "canyon racer sub-culture" freaks, or all Harley-riders are "Hell's Angels" outlaws. We as motorcyclists know better, but "they" aren't going to take the time to understand the difference. And the police sure aren't going to help either as its easier for them to garner public support against motorcycles this way...

I hope the CA officer recovers quickly, and the TN officer gets put in jail where he belongs.
 

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As long as we're on the subject....

HP patrol officers may be part of a sub-culture called "jack-booted thugs" who like to extort further departmental funding from taxpaying motorcyclists.......

These two criminal guys are (more than likely) part of a sub-culture called "theives" who like to steal cars and motorcycles from their rightful owners.
 

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That's a terrible story, I hope they give that cop some appropriate punishment. Isn't this the same area of TN (near Blount county) where Terry Barnhard (sp?) was killed by that TN Senator? I sincerely hope that justice prevails this time.
 

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Having just read the report in the paper it sure would seem that the officer deliberately pulled in front of the motorcycle (it's on tape no less). I hope the bastard gets life - murder is murder whether you use a knife, a gun or a car. The fact that this thug is hiding behind a badge makes it even worse as he is supposed to be somebody people can trust to see the results of his actions. I would hope that his fellow officers do what little they can to put this guy away.
 

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Here, here to all the above posts... we won't even mention the TN politician who killed a motorcyclist and then got the stretch of road he killed the guy on named after his own murdering behind... or all the flat out BS that goes on in Deal's Gap(also in TN). I hope this CA cop is doing ok... does anyone know where we can send cards or emails?



PS- How intelligent ABC is to put together that canyon racers race in canyons. I'd agree with the notion that thieves are the subculture being dealt with though.
 

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You know, I still feel badly for the officer who was attacked, support the police in general and feel that they basically do a good job for little pay, this "canyon racers" comment is absolute bull$*it. Talk about stupid generalizations. If they're looking for support from the motorcycle community to help catch the perpetrators they're sure not helping themselves with comments like that.
 

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I went on a group ride (mostly sportbikes) yesterday and encountered the checkpoint. All vehicles on the highway were being stopped. My firsthand experience is the CHP officer was extremely polite and professional. Everyone else in the group experienced the same with the officers they talked to (3 CHP and 1 OC Sheriff). One person in our group is a cop, and he even thought it was exceptional.



Several people at work went to the local Sportbike Night at a burger joint last week. There were several officers distributing flyers, and a get-well card was circulated and given to the officers to deliver to their colleague.



In both cases, everyone felt the CHP is definitely NOT grouping anyone on two wheels with the idiots who attacked the officer. My impression is they see riders as part of solving the case.
 

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You're right.

A lot of riders, including this website, tend to automatically be against the motorcyclist any time someone has a problem with something a motorcyclist does, because the rider wasn't low profile enough, or whatever. Like we're all supposed to just tip-toe around the cage driving lemming masses for the sake of motorcycling's image. I don't think this attitude does anyone any favors, and riders should be on the side of riders (unless they're really bike thieves beating up cops) when it comes to things that don't hurt anyone else. That thing in TN you just mentioned shoulda been front page all over. This story isn't at all important in comparison. Good to see you know what side you're on.
 

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That's an interesting point and one that if presented by the CHP to the public (and especially the press), would go a long way in re-establishing the trust and faith in the law-enforcement community - at least from the eyes of those of us that choose to ride. I know that I feel much more drawn to help with the solution, when I feel that I am not being labeled as part of the problem.



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Police use alot of psychology in their work, They're obviously using the 'sub culture "canyon racers" ' line to aggrivate people who are 'normal upstanding citiczens' and get them involved. It's a good strategy. However, being the open minded, unbiased person I am, I could easily wonder if the policeman did something 'above and beyond the call of duty', so to speak, to cause these motorcyclists to assault (defend themselves from?) the policeman. As the saying goes.. The possibilities are endless. None of us can make any accusations nor form opinions without knowing everything that happened. But, no matter what, physical harm was done to a policeman and the people that did it need to be found, and hopefully justice can be served.
 

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I just read the report about the man killed in TN by the police officer.

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/25470.shtml

This is quite a sad story. The motorcyclist left behind three children. He was divorced but had custody of his kids.

The police officer had had two prior suspensions. One for not reporting to his superior about being involved in a high pursuit chase earlier in the day and another just being a punk no doubt. At least that's what the report says.

Another officer radioed to him that a motorcycle was approching at a high rate of speed. Sounds like the officer pulled his cruiser into the far left lane to try and block the rider.

Now the rider is dead, three kids are left father less. Maybe now they will see this idiot doesn't deserve to where a badge and gun. I mean how many times does it take until they figure out this guy sucks.
 

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What always bothers me is how the cops pull out all the stops when it comes to catching someone that has done one of their own harm. Too bad when Joe Blow citizen is murdered, raped or mugged. Afterall, it is only the citizens that pay for the cops salaries for their protection, and the cops tacitly accept the risk that comes with getting paid for doing what they do. What does this have to do with motorcycles baffles me, but it is a lot cheaper than paying a therapist to listen to me whine.
 
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