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· The Toad
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It's immaterial whether or not this bill involves motorcycle helmets. What's really at stake is how far we are willing to let the govt go to 'protect' us by removing freedom.



The argument of public burden is so openended that it is like handing politicians absolute power. Do we really want that? That argument makes it possible for the govt to justify anything it wants to do. It's all "for the public good".



The people who want all this govt largesse should just set up the system for themselves and leave the rest of us out of it. That's impossible, of course, because such losers require a large number of producers to extort money for their precious benefits.
 

· The Toad
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Now that you mention it:



I disagree with seatbelt laws too. It however very much is a freedom issue.



I also think that the new "anti-terrorism" legislation will have no effect on terrorism. What we have done is reward the incompetent fools who failed to prevent 9-11 with billions of dollars in increased funding. If you reward incompetence you get even more incompetence. On top of that the govt always misuses its power against its own citizens.



And after a point, giving up freedom does not result in safety. The govt is absolutely the stupidest entity on Earth. Nothing good is going to come of this. Imagine Hilary Clinton with the power to name any group she doesn't like a terrorist group. (shudder).



After all, who will guard the guards?
 

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Re: Tumbler

Stop it longride. This guy cannot conceive of any society except a big government socialist one. Any further attempts to change his mind will only result in subjecting his co-workers to the smell of smoking brain cells.
 

· The Toad
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Re: All fine and nice, IF...

Yeah! And the same goes for other risky behaviors!

Skiing.

Walking across the street.

Eating anything but tofu and palm leaves.

Taking a shower.

Getting out of bed.

Reading KPaul's posts.

etc.

etc.
 

· The Toad
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From what I've seen Driver's Licenses are a big joke. People drive without them all the time. People who are obviously incompetent behind the wheel are given new licenses regularly.



Think of a better example. There is no evidence that bothering with licenses really does much good, if any.
 

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Re: I am a Republican and NRA member

Well, Chaffee is a republican too. No one can tell any difference between him and Teddy Kennedy.

And Teddy's car has killed more people than my gun.
 
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