PA Helmet Law Modified
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Let me handle this
You're an idiot if you don't make the same decesion I made.
My freedom of choice is my right. Any arguement to the contrary is bogus. Your choice, however, is dumb and stupid so we need laws so I don't have to pay for your mistakes.
Did I miss anything?
You're an idiot if you don't make the same decesion I made.
My freedom of choice is my right. Any arguement to the contrary is bogus. Your choice, however, is dumb and stupid so we need laws so I don't have to pay for your mistakes.
Did I miss anything?
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Let me try.
First before replying to my post you must give your MSF scores. Right GeezerGlide (Buz) ??
[*]All this shows is that Pa has high proportion of influential ABATE baby boomer gray pony tailed idiots
[*] The law is unenforceable i.e. police will not bother to stop someone without a helmet because they are so many ifs. If you are over 21 and have ridden for two years and completed a MSF class. Right everyone is going to wear a tee shirt that says over 21 over 2 years of experience with a MSF logo. The net effect is to legalize helmetless riding for everyone because it will be impossible to determine law breakers without stopping folks. Cops are not going to bother with doing that. STUPID LAW
[*] Once again ABATE has managed to make motorcyclist look like idiots by having the wrong priority on this issue. This is not the issue folks should be spending time and polical captial on. Things like increased penalities for motorist who kill motorcyclists and protecting motorcylists ability to obtain health insurance should be things the AMA and ABATE should have as top prority
First before replying to my post you must give your MSF scores. Right GeezerGlide (Buz) ??
[*]All this shows is that Pa has high proportion of influential ABATE baby boomer gray pony tailed idiots
[*] The law is unenforceable i.e. police will not bother to stop someone without a helmet because they are so many ifs. If you are over 21 and have ridden for two years and completed a MSF class. Right everyone is going to wear a tee shirt that says over 21 over 2 years of experience with a MSF logo. The net effect is to legalize helmetless riding for everyone because it will be impossible to determine law breakers without stopping folks. Cops are not going to bother with doing that. STUPID LAW
[*] Once again ABATE has managed to make motorcyclist look like idiots by having the wrong priority on this issue. This is not the issue folks should be spending time and polical captial on. Things like increased penalities for motorist who kill motorcyclists and protecting motorcylists ability to obtain health insurance should be things the AMA and ABATE should have as top prority
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Re: Let me try.
Why should a motorist who kills a motorcyclist be punished any more than a motorist that kills a non-motorcyclist? Killing is killing, correct?
And, can anyone out there attest to being denied health insurance because they ride a motorcycle?
Why should a motorist who kills a motorcyclist be punished any more than a motorist that kills a non-motorcyclist? Killing is killing, correct?
And, can anyone out there attest to being denied health insurance because they ride a motorcycle?
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Re:You miss the point
There's no law that says you CAN'T wear a helmet, Kpaul. It simply says if you meet certain criteria you don't have too. While I doubt the police will pull over everyone they see to see if they meet the helmet-less requirement I'd imagine if you got popped for another reason they'd check. And if they needed an excuse to pull you over they could say you looked under age. I also think resources would be better spent on issue's other than helmet laws, but I don't live in PA. and I wear a helmet because I want too, not because I have too. If PA riders want to ride helmet-less that's up to them.
There's no law that says you CAN'T wear a helmet, Kpaul. It simply says if you meet certain criteria you don't have too. While I doubt the police will pull over everyone they see to see if they meet the helmet-less requirement I'd imagine if you got popped for another reason they'd check. And if they needed an excuse to pull you over they could say you looked under age. I also think resources would be better spent on issue's other than helmet laws, but I don't live in PA. and I wear a helmet because I want too, not because I have too. If PA riders want to ride helmet-less that's up to them.
Not More, Just the Same
My friend Julian Long was INTENTIONALLY run down and killed by a guy in a pick-up truck Christmas Day, 1999. The guy who did it was convicted of involuntary manslaughter and spent less than a month in jail.
If he had intentionally run down and killed a pregnant woman in a crosswalk, you can bet he'd be up for the lethal injection!
We just want equal prosecution and enforcement, that's all.
My friend Julian Long was INTENTIONALLY run down and killed by a guy in a pick-up truck Christmas Day, 1999. The guy who did it was convicted of involuntary manslaughter and spent less than a month in jail.
If he had intentionally run down and killed a pregnant woman in a crosswalk, you can bet he'd be up for the lethal injection!
We just want equal prosecution and enforcement, that's all.
If you think this gives PA citizens more freedom, think again. Then end result will be police with more power to pull over bikers for no reason (that is, with a lame reason). I for one would not want to be harassed by the man just so they can check that I've met the minimum requirements to go lidless. (not that I would ever go helmetless.)
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