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First Post. Good tips!
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"How to wheelie" (on public roads) is a way to avoid painful error?

The article is such BS it is really not worth commenting on. KP should love it ...

I can understand how cornering and braking would be lost on you. Carry on Wild One.
Even if the "Metacognition of The Unskilled" section already ruined bigdx's morning, I think the page has some great info for new and experienced riders.
I wish he'd mention that you should only use the "outside-inside-outside" cornering if you have a very good view of what's around the corner. Just last Monday, I was going into a left hand turn just before a hill. Suddenly, a Taurus appeared in the oncoming lane. It went straight across the double yellow and halfway into my lane!

I'd say that it's often safer to stay on the outside the whole way, unless you have a good reason or good visibility.
Especially the part where advice is given never to use your back brake ... eh genuis?
Hands down the best place to learn the capabilities of your motorcycle and your riding abilities is the race track. Even experienced street riders can be amazed how fast their bike can slow from 100+ speeds and how far the can actually lean it over in a corner. And the best part - no trees, cars, curbs, guard rails, gravel, old ladies, dogs, deer, cows or cops to worry about.
My bike has a back brake? I'll check in on the way to work.
He's talking about real bikes, not about tractor-based butt jewelry. ;)

During hard braking in a straight line the rear wheel has so little weight on it, the rear brake is useless.

Not wishing any harm to come to anybody, I suggest you do wear a full face and your complete power rangers outfit ...
Boy, the power rangers are out in force today ...

"During hard braking in a straight line the rear wheel has so little weight on it, the rear brake is useless."

Really? Even when wet or with oil/gravel/sand on the road surface? Oh yeah, the xbox has only perfect condition road similation
Unless you are on an ST1300 with a passenger or a Gold Wing or K1200LT. In those instances you'd better learn to use your back brake.

As stated, the back brake is more effective on cruiser-type bikes. Even on bikes like the V-Rod and Electra-Glide, the back brake is very effective. On my Busa, I don't think I even touched the rear brake twice. I did make the mistake of grabbing only the front brake on my GoldWing trying to stop from high speed. It was one of those 'Oh shyt' moments that wasn't repeated. On a Wing you are better off slamming th rear brake hard and then applying the front. Goes against the natural way of braking for sure. I hate linked brakes.
Great page for those learning to ride - read then experiment.
I am sure your limited experience; somebody with 10 year of experience does seem like an expert. I will not begrudge you that …

The articles are quite funny to read though. He is a "sportbike" rider, sport bikes being a GS500, an 1100 bandit and a Goldwing. Mmm, plenty sporty bike eh?

And of course the "use front brake only" on a bike like a Wing makes real sense?

And of course gems like "I have a Bandit 1200 so of course I've dabbled with drag racing!". Wow yeah, a Bandit 1200 just brings out the racer in everyone? (Fortunately he has the sense to publish statement from somebody that actually races)

But you are quite correct that the "Metacognition failures in the unskilled" post does steal the show. After ten years on a GS500, Bandit and wing I think Rossi and Hayden will be banging this clowns door down for tips. I do not think I am worthy even to read his article … maybe after another 30 years maybe?

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do you think your rear wheel is somehow immune to oil/gravel/sand ? any braking on a sportsbike or standard tends to throw the weight of the bike onto the front wheel, due to the balanced nature of the weight distribution on the bike....having less weight on the rear would make it a lot easier to lock up the rear wheel especially on a low grip surface ..this is exactly what the writer said, he mentioned how the weight bias is different on cruisers where the rear brake is much more effective ....

and good luck to any man doing braking on oil
Quote from the How to Wheelie section: "Staying up (theoretical only since I'm not dumb enough to try it):"

My question: Why is the guy giving advice on how to do a maneuver he's "not dumb enough to try?"

Love the section where he invalidates his own page:

"Because competent and safe motorcycling is a knowledge based skill, this helps explain typical phenomena such as:

* newbies eagerly soaking up contradictory and boneheaded advice.

* the least competent often out in front "leading the pack"

* self taught "old hands" passing on well meaning but questionable advice"
Exactly what the writer says is the following "Forget about using both brakes. Too much to coordinate ". Your argument will be better grounded if you actually read his article.

"do you think your rear wheel is somehow immune to oil/gravel/sand"

Not sure what part of my comments would make anybody with a reasonable level of comprehension think I said as much.

"any braking on a sportsbike or standard tends to throw the weight of the bike onto the front wheel"

Sure, but this clown doesn’t ride sportbikes. His one bike especially (a goldwing) relies very much on rear brakes to come to full stop. Again, you should actually read the article

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I had to panic brake on the Duc and even with the girl on the back the rear wheel was still off the ground.

What happened to ol' Fast Eddie? He'd be telling us to "lay her down."
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