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How can you talk about POWER CRUISERS and not mention the Valkyrie. Why not have a 2 or 3 day trip/test and include the Valkyrie. Ride them for a 300+ mile day and tell me which works the best. If riding around the boulevard doing burnouts is cruising thats a joke. These V-Twin boat anchors may look good, if form over function is you cup of tea.
But then again HD has made that an art form.
But then again HD has made that an art form.
Okay.....you had a momentary slump(happens to us all)and screwed up the original comparo
But now you are back on your game and made a more reasonable decision to overwhelmingly pick the Warrior over the underpowered Meanstreak.Now......how bout a straight up comparo between the Warrior and the VRod......should be much more interesting
But now you are back on your game and made a more reasonable decision to overwhelmingly pick the Warrior over the underpowered Meanstreak.Now......how bout a straight up comparo between the Warrior and the VRod......should be much more interesting
Hey! I was proud of us from a publishing standpoint with that story. Believe me, when
we tallied up the votes and the Mean Streak won,
we all said "it effing won?!"
But the MS reminds me of Trent Dilfer: Not the strongest or greatest, but it does nothing wrong and is
dependable in every way. So it seemingly gets
little respect, until you ride it. It's one of the
best rides there is for a cruiser if you can overlook the power, or rather, the lack thereof.
We tried to think of a zillion "valid" reasons to
weasel out of our publishing criteria with the 01power story -- it takes a lot of guts to
pick what we know will be an unpopular winner, especially one that no one was fervently behind but got consistently high votes across-the-board...
But, then again, I was pissed the V-Max didn't win, and not many people agreed with me, so, what's the matter with you'all?! Freaks.
Oh, wait, I'm not done ranting. I thought the Mean
Streak was the best-looking cruiser I've seen in a long time, until the Warrior rolled in. It's stunning to look at, definitely the coolest thing
around now.
we tallied up the votes and the Mean Streak won,
we all said "it effing won?!"
But the MS reminds me of Trent Dilfer: Not the strongest or greatest, but it does nothing wrong and is
dependable in every way. So it seemingly gets
little respect, until you ride it. It's one of the
best rides there is for a cruiser if you can overlook the power, or rather, the lack thereof.
We tried to think of a zillion "valid" reasons to
weasel out of our publishing criteria with the 01power story -- it takes a lot of guts to
pick what we know will be an unpopular winner, especially one that no one was fervently behind but got consistently high votes across-the-board...
But, then again, I was pissed the V-Max didn't win, and not many people agreed with me, so, what's the matter with you'all?! Freaks.
Oh, wait, I'm not done ranting. I thought the Mean
Streak was the best-looking cruiser I've seen in a long time, until the Warrior rolled in. It's stunning to look at, definitely the coolest thing
around now.
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Finally
Two bikes -- one very good, the other even better; one $11,000, the other $12,000; both are available on dealers floors today; an average guy can go down and write a check or sign a note, and ride one for years without having to spend many more thousands of dollars on aftermarket parts, repairs, insurance, or chiropractors -- this is what, IMO, motorcycling is supposed to be about. Thank you Kawasaki, Yamaha and MO.
Two bikes -- one very good, the other even better; one $11,000, the other $12,000; both are available on dealers floors today; an average guy can go down and write a check or sign a note, and ride one for years without having to spend many more thousands of dollars on aftermarket parts, repairs, insurance, or chiropractors -- this is what, IMO, motorcycling is supposed to be about. Thank you Kawasaki, Yamaha and MO.
MO, your job is not over yet. Now you must procure a Moto Guzzi California Sport and a Harley Dyna Glide Sport, declare a winner 'tween those two, and compare it to the Yammie. Then I'll be happy. You want me to be happy, no? I predict the M-G will emerge victorious.
I must agree that the Warrior looks much better in person than in pictures, but I still think the Mean Streak has much better lines than the Warrior and VTX. Though the Warrior exhaust is unique, I just don't think it fits as well with the overall bike. The Mean Streak looks better.
The performance of the Warrior, on the other hand, seems quite impressive. That would more than make up for the less complete look. Besides, you can already buy staggered dual pipes for the Yami.
All that being said, I still think the V-Rod is the most striking. It is the most different, and the all aluminum bodywork just looks incredible in person, as does that front headlight. Besides, on the V-Rod, the stuff that looks like chrome really is chrome, not plastic. If only enough were available... I guess I would have to come to the same conclusion as the testers if availability were included.
The performance of the Warrior, on the other hand, seems quite impressive. That would more than make up for the less complete look. Besides, you can already buy staggered dual pipes for the Yami.
All that being said, I still think the V-Rod is the most striking. It is the most different, and the all aluminum bodywork just looks incredible in person, as does that front headlight. Besides, on the V-Rod, the stuff that looks like chrome really is chrome, not plastic. If only enough were available... I guess I would have to come to the same conclusion as the testers if availability were included.
I was wondering about the sound that comes out of those exhausts. Viewing the clips it seems those two have a nice V-Twin sound to them. I have heard many Honda Sprits and the like and they sound flat and uninteresting.
These two sound different, or is that just the way it seems from the clips? Do they really sound good?
These two sound different, or is that just the way it seems from the clips? Do they really sound good?
Valkyrie? IMO it does not quite fit in. Not a V-twin as the rest of the group is. You need to be a fairly large person to ride it. I could easily ride the Kawi. Yeah I know we have all seen women riding Valks, but just because you can get on and ride one does not mean you can safely operate the thing in an emergency. I believe the Valk fits into a new category... The sport touring cruiser category. The new GW1800 almost fits the category too.
Don't get me wrong as different as the Valk is from everything else I think it is a cool bike.
BTW If the Virago 1100 was still in production it would fit in pretty well and it will out handle any of these bikes.
Don't get me wrong as different as the Valk is from everything else I think it is a cool bike.
BTW If the Virago 1100 was still in production it would fit in pretty well and it will out handle any of these bikes.
I don't think much of either of them. 64 and 76 HP respectively, plus vibration. Yeeccchh. Might as well buy a stock H-D.
I ride a Valk, so I've got the best of everything. Torque, HP, excellent handling, eye catching, and little vibration.
"Mean Streak," and "Warrior:" A dorky name does not an outstanding motorcycle make. Those two puppies will see nothing but my taillight when they get on the road....
I ride a Valk, so I've got the best of everything. Torque, HP, excellent handling, eye catching, and little vibration.
"Mean Streak," and "Warrior:" A dorky name does not an outstanding motorcycle make. Those two puppies will see nothing but my taillight when they get on the road....
I really like the Warrior, not too interested in the Mean Streak. Would really like to see comparison between VTX and Warrior... Right now I have a 1987 Honda Magna (solid disk back wheel and really cool pipes!) and am looking for a replacement, only BIGGER! From what I've read, the Warrior seems to be the most similiar in focus, cruiser style, but sporty function... However, the sheer monstrosity of the VTX peaks my interest.
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Yeah, a Moto Guzzi.
But most people prefer reliability more than looks or heritage. In this case I tend to agree, sadly. I fell in love with the Warrior add with a very nice burnout...It's also beautiful bike, IMHO. The Mean Streak strikes to me as a boutique-bike, to much chrome and little shiny details. The Warrior looks the meanest...
But a Harley? they are all ugly, except the V-rod.
I like the customized Harleys, though. They are SO different from the stock...but at what a price!
But most people prefer reliability more than looks or heritage. In this case I tend to agree, sadly. I fell in love with the Warrior add with a very nice burnout...It's also beautiful bike, IMHO. The Mean Streak strikes to me as a boutique-bike, to much chrome and little shiny details. The Warrior looks the meanest...
But a Harley? they are all ugly, except the V-rod.
I like the customized Harleys, though. They are SO different from the stock...but at what a price!
Kirby,
Both the Warrior and the Mean Streak sound _really_ nice in person. In fact they're the best-sounding Japanese V-twins we've ridden. But of the two, the Warrior makes the most Harley-like sounds, especially rolling on the throttle from low RPM. Heck, more than once, the sound made me think I was riding our Softail Deuce.
Both the Warrior and the Mean Streak sound _really_ nice in person. In fact they're the best-sounding Japanese V-twins we've ridden. But of the two, the Warrior makes the most Harley-like sounds, especially rolling on the throttle from low RPM. Heck, more than once, the sound made me think I was riding our Softail Deuce.
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Speaking of incredibly stupid names...
do you feel like you're in a Wagnerian opera or your own bedroom when you ride the fat lady?
(so-named because the sounds it produces are similarly obnoxious, I suspect)
do you feel like you're in a Wagnerian opera or your own bedroom when you ride the fat lady?
(so-named because the sounds it produces are similarly obnoxious, I suspect)
Big_Boy,
The VTX is, without a doubt, the largest peice of _cruiser_ you'll swing a leg over. Without a doubt it's larger, heavier and has more torque than either of these bikes, but it's also _so_ large and heavy that, unless you're going pretty darn straight, either of these other bikes (especially the Warrior) will roost all over the VTX.
The VTX is, without a doubt, the largest peice of _cruiser_ you'll swing a leg over. Without a doubt it's larger, heavier and has more torque than either of these bikes, but it's also _so_ large and heavy that, unless you're going pretty darn straight, either of these other bikes (especially the Warrior) will roost all over the VTX.
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