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I have '97. bmw f650 Funduro and here is my problem. First i'd had some problems with ignition and than it stopped. After that begun problems with rpm-s... When i turn on the bike, everything is working perfectly in the neutral and at the lover revs but when i start driving and rev it over maybe 3500 rpms engine starts to cough and in most cases shuts down. What have i done? I cleaned spark plugs and air filter and it worked perfectly for next maybe 30 kms. Next day I turned it on without problems and when i started to drive it shoot down and after that I couldn't turn it on again!

If somebody have some suggestion or idea i would be more than glad to hear it!

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Sounds like bad gas to me. Especially if it worked for a while after cleaning the plugs.


Here's your REAL problem: "Funduro." No self-respecting motorcyclist would ride a bike named "Funduro." Burn the motorcycle. Use the insurance money to buy a new bike.
 

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and after that I couldn't turn it on again!
What exactly do you mean by "couldn't turn it on" ??

No lights, nothing
Lights but starter won't run
Lights and starter but engine won't fire ?????
All those situations are quite different things and different problems.

Is the bike fuel injected ??
What kind of "ignition probem" did you have before.

Not many BMW folks here, I think.
Probably need to seek out a dealer or other qualified BMW mechanic.
 

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First of all, don't worry about the bike and what spaceman says - that motor is bombproof, and it simply needs a proper fuel mixture, air, and a good spark. And not to get into a flame war with the young spaceman (cadet!!?) who clearly knows nothing about the F650, but that model F650 has been ridden around the world by many people in all manner of terrain and weather, including Antarctica, across Africa - it is doesn't excel in any one motorcycling discipline, it isn't pretty, it isnt real fast, but it is the motorcycling master of versatility. Best bike I've ever owned. I could go on and on.

Sounds like possibly 2 separate issues, one on the charging side (the shut-down), and one of the fuel delivery side (rpms and choking out).

On the charging side, the typical culprits are a dying lead-acid battery, or a voltage rectifier that may be starting to go. Check your battery terminals for a solid connection, especially the negative terminal. Do you have a voltmeter? if so, and you can get the bike running, tell me what the voltage is.

Anyways, How many miles are on the bike, and when was the last time the carb O-Rings were changed? If you recall, what was the condition and color of the spark plug? Could be a number of things, from a clogged fuel filter (you may have 3 if you can believe that), to clogged tank vent lines (vacuum developing in the tank and the float bowls aren't getting fuel). I know the bike well, pretty much done every imaginable maintenance item short of splitting the engine, taken her through thick and thin from snow to desert.

You wont need to take it to a shop bro, we'll figure it out. You can do all your own maintenance on that baby over time for cheap, and you'll get an excellent education in how she feels and responds when all the maintenance is up to snuff. Oh - and with the $$$ you'll save, you can get an Ohlins on the back end of that thing, and that girl will excel in twisties, off road, urban, 500 mile days, - you name it.
 

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I've ridden an F650. I'd heard the terms "anemic engine" and "wooden-feeling brakes" before, but never really understood the TRUE definition of the terms, until that time.
 

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Hi Air Hawk!!

Thanks for your insightful post regarding a fellow forum member's mechanical problem with his F650. I hope all of you "Founding Members" add such helpful mechanical advice to solve another member's mechanical problems!

Of course, since you've "ridden" ONE that as an informed and experienced founding member you knew was in top mechanical shape, you must be an authority on the bike - it sure sounds like an utter piece of junk that a few hundred thousand folks who ride it worldwide should avoid - you know - those misinformed and ignorant BMW riders are just so much about image and don't know squat about motorcycle engineering and performance (along with the ninnies in Stuttgart that build that damn things).

And since you are such an authority as a "Founding Member", I suggest you get your "ride" review published on an authoritative motorcycle review site. If indeed it has an "anemic engine" and "wooden feeling brakes", this authoritative opinion from a Motorcycle.com "Founding Member" should be known to the public as a counter to its near 20-year production run and stellar reputation. Knowledgeable motorcyclists need to know that the TRUE definition of "anemic engine" and "wooden brakes" is embodied in the BMW F650!!!

Thanks for sharing, it's been my privilege as a new member to meet such a truly knowledgeable "Founding Member" of Motorcycle.com and a mechanical authority on my bike!! Please avail me of your astute opinion on what bike I need to switch to for my dual-sport motorcycling purposes that is authoritatively better than the F650, since I'm sure you are a subject matter expert!

As a "Forum Administrator" who apparently is here to moderate topics, please do tell me how your comments thoughtfully added to the discussion as a representative of Motorcycle.com.
 

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I just love this piece. BMW F650 is a work horse and the house of power in one neat package. With lots of torque, power at all engine speeds, which takes you from town to country on the road with relative ease. BMW F650 good performance, it is easy to assemble, and is tried and tested, allowing Welly effortlessly.
 

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As a "Forum Administrator" who apparently is here to moderate topics, please do tell me how your comments thoughtfully added to the discussion as a representative of Motorcycle.com.
Maybe you have much to give to the group here.......but that last post exhibits an attitude that negates anything good you could contribute.

We all contribute what we CAN and most are not "experts".

You need to take that chip off your shoulder and take your ego down a peg or two...........or just leave now.

This is a good diverse group but we have little tollerance for newbies wading in with an attitude and guns blazing.

The above is my personal opinion and nothing more.
That is true of posts made by mods and admins here too.........unless designated as an "official" communication.
 

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Hi Air Hawk!!

Thanks for your insightful post regarding a fellow forum member's mechanical problem with his F650. I hope all of you "Founding Members" add such helpful mechanical advice to solve another member's mechanical problems!

Of course, since you've "ridden" ONE that as an informed and experienced founding member you knew was in top mechanical shape, you must be an authority on the bike - it sure sounds like an utter piece of junk that a few hundred thousand folks who ride it worldwide should avoid - you know - those misinformed and ignorant BMW riders are just so much about image and don't know squat about motorcycle engineering and performance (along with the ninnies in Stuttgart that build that damn things).

And since you are such an authority as a "Founding Member", I suggest you get your "ride" review published on an authoritative motorcycle review site. If indeed it has an "anemic engine" and "wooden feeling brakes", this authoritative opinion from a Motorcycle.com "Founding Member" should be known to the public as a counter to its near 20-year production run and stellar reputation. Knowledgeable motorcyclists need to know that the TRUE definition of "anemic engine" and "wooden brakes" is embodied in the BMW F650!!!

Thanks for sharing, it's been my privilege as a new member to meet such a truly knowledgeable "Founding Member" of Motorcycle.com and a mechanical authority on my bike!! Please avail me of your astute opinion on what bike I need to switch to for my dual-sport motorcycling purposes that is authoritatively better than the F650, since I'm sure you are a subject matter expert!

As a "Forum Administrator" who apparently is here to moderate topics, please do tell me how your comments thoughtfully added to the discussion as a representative of Motorcycle.com.
Not many in the USA have ridden the F650. They don't sell worth a shyt which may only mean that they don't meet to needs of BMW users in the USA with its miles of Interstate Hwy. Most tests I've seen of it also aren't happy with the weak nature of the engine.

However you apparently like the bike so more power to ya. But you're arrogant attitude won't win many converts here and frankly, anyone who goes around making extravagant claims about a particular bike usually becomes a butt of a lot of jokes
 

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@ Easy Rider - that is a respectful opinion, and I do agree with you - i did have a "chip on my shoulder" with regards to what i regard as a "chip on the shoulder" comment from a "forum moderator" who, as I state, lended nothing pertinent to the riders problem. You mention a "newbie need not come in with guns a blazing". Remember that I came into this thread to help a fellow F650 rider - your "Forum Moderator" started the flame session with his impertinent comment.

His comment was positively pointless, unhelpful, and quite inaccurate. "Forum moderators" should be able to back up their assumptions with an understanding of what the bike is built to do. I doubt he took his buddy's bike past the redline (that single cylinder Rotax Engine will happily go past the 7500rpm redline). Hence, I suggest he knows little to make such a categorical opinion.

Consider that your "forum moderators" post "negates" anything good he can contribute. This young man does not know the bike in my opinion.

@serurawa - Like space cadet, i suggest that you are quite wrong with your first two sentences, which negates the rest of your commentary. If the F650 what a piece of "syht", BMW would have ditched it years ago. Adventure motorcycling has become quite popular, BMW and KTM are the leaders, and the F650, with its urban, freeway, and off-road versatility, is a major player. Consider this - you don't need 80 hp to do what the F50 does. Thats why the F650 is a better bike to "get in deep with". I've been on trips where my little thumper got through terrain that a 990 KTM adventure couldn't, and no bmw 1220gs would dare to go. I'll trade that for 0-60 performance anyday.

I'm certainly not attached to participating in this forum. But when I respond as a helpful "newbie" to a forum members mechanical problem and a "Forum Moderator" weighs in with a pointless and ego-driven post that clearly demonstrates he is no authority on the F650, I am likely to object with due sarcasm. Being a forum "newbie" has zero to do with it.
 

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@ Easy Rider - that is a respectful opinion, and I do agree with you - i did have a "chip on my shoulder" with regards to what i regard as a "chip on the shoulder" comment from a "forum moderator" who, as I state, lended nothing pertinent to the riders problem. You mention a "newbie need not come in with guns a blazing". Remember that I came into this thread to help a fellow F650 rider - your "Forum Moderator" started the flame session with his impertinent comment.

His comment was positively pointless, unhelpful, and quite inaccurate. "Forum moderators" should be able to back up their assumptions with an understanding of what the bike is built to do. I doubt he took his buddy's bike past the redline (that single cylinder Rotax Engine will happily go past the 7500rpm redline). Hence, I suggest he knows little to make such a categorical opinion.

Consider that your "forum moderators" post "negates" anything good he can contribute. This young man does not know the bike in my opinion.

@serurawa - Like space cadet, i suggest that you are quite wrong with your first two sentences, which negates the rest of your commentary. If the F650 what a piece of "syht", BMW would have ditched it years ago. Adventure motorcycling has become quite popular, BMW and KTM are the leaders, and the F650, with its urban, freeway, and off-road versatility, is a major player. Consider this - you don't need 80 hp to do what the F50 does. Thats why the F650 is a better bike to "get in deep with". I've been on trips where my little thumper got through terrain that a 990 KTM adventure couldn't, and no bmw 1220gs would dare to go. I'll trade that for 0-60 performance anyday.

I'm certainly not attached to participating in this forum. But when I respond as a helpful "newbie" to a forum members mechanical problem and a "Forum Moderator" weighs in with a pointless and ego-driven post that clearly demonstrates he is no authority on the F650, I am likely to object with due sarcasm. Being a forum "newbie" has zero to do with it.
F650 can mean either the older single or the newer twin, which is the one that sells like shyt. And I never said the F650 was shyt.

EasyRider2 is not a moderator.
 

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Consider that your "forum moderators" post "negates" anything good he can contribute. This young man does not know the bike in my opinion.
And the point I was trying to make is that the above applies to YOU too.

And maybe you are not quite the expert that you pretend to be.....maybe.

My opinion is that it was YOU that turned on the flame.

It is possible to refute someone else's post without being nasty and demaining in the process.

And lastly, you just don't seem to be listening: A moderator's post carries no more or less weight here than anybody else's........except when it comes to moderating duties. This is CLEARLY not one of those case so your continual harping about a "moderators actions" are pointless and inflamatory. Keep it up and the moderators might find it necessary to turn it into an "official" communication.

If you are not looking to pick a fight, you sure have me fooled.
 

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Fair enough gents. I confused Air-Hawk with being a forum moderator and re-read that he is a "founding member", and i found his post completely impertinent. I didn't want the original poster to be dissuaded about the capability of his bike by such an inaccurate and uniformed opinion. My apologies for my terse response. I don't suffer fools well sometimes.

@ Easy Rider - I'm not pretending to be an expert on the F650 - i could have pushed this member to get off this forum and join the Chain Gang F650 forum, where he wouldn't be subjected to such uniformed opinions.

But I do think nobody on this thread has a more informed opinion on the F650 than me, and nobody did more to help the riders mechanical problem. I may not be an expert, but i've owned japanese sport bikes, to the big boxer twin, to the F650, and I have studied, repaired, modified, and maintained the F650 far more than the average rider.

Cheers gents, Onward!!

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Fair enough gents. I confused Air-Hawk with being a forum moderator and re-read that he is a "founding member", and i found his post completely impertinent. I didn't want the original poster to be dissuaded about the capability of his bike by such an inaccurate and uniformed opinion. My apologies for my terse response. I don't suffer fools well sometimes.

@ Easy Rider - I'm not pretending to be an expert on the F650 - i could have pushed this member to get off this forum and join the Chain Gang F650 forum, where he wouldn't be subjected to such uniformed opinions.

But I do think nobody on this thread has a more informed opinion on the F650 than me, and nobody did more to help the riders mechanical problem. I may not be an expert, but i've owned japanese sport bikes, to the big boxer twin, to the F650, and I have studied, repaired, modified, and maintained the F650 far more than the average rider.

Cheers gents, Onward!!

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And I find your fan-boyism completely ridiculous, and your tone more personally-insulting than anything directed at you, OR your beloved moto combined.

I stand by what I said.

Just to clarify, this was a mid-'90s model (a '96, I believe). I never said the bike was shyte, only it had slow power-delivery and brakes with very-little feel. Both traits could certainly be helped with the aid of a jet-kit, some Goodrich brake lines, and semi-metallic pads. If you're such an "expert" as you claim, you know these are well-acknowledged flaws in the bike, as the F650 forums are virtually alight with "cures" for the disease.

Now, cheerfully piss off.
 

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I don't suffer fools well sometimes.

i could have pushed this member to get off this forum and join the Chain Gang F650 forum, where he wouldn't be subjected to such uniformed opinions.
Nor do I but I think YOU need to examine your definition of "fool". :rolleyes:

All of us are uninformed on one subject or another and that doesn't make us all fools. And just because someone doesn't agree with your considered opinion on a given subject doesn't make them a fool either. :p

I think you need to get your ego in check.

Unlike many forums around the net, THIS one doesn't mind you sending people somewhere else.......if they can get more help there. Maybe you SHOULD have done that in the first place.
 

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