I heard Kawasaki had a press intro on the new and "improved" (snicker, snicker) 2008 KLR this weekend. Weren't any MOstapharians invited? If not, why didn't you guys just crash the party? When can we expect a review of the early release 08?
I'll never trade in my kninja she was my first.. Just like your first girl she is special...She still has it. I rode 156 miles today.. That's why I missed the Barber races.. You guys should spend more time riding and less time on MO
Honda came out with a new segment when they introduced the Ridgeline... the NRT (Not a Real Truck) class... Yeah, it's different and all, , but check out their sales figures... If you are going to make a "truck", at least give it a FRIGGIN FRAME!!! I think Ford tried the unibody truck in the 60's or 70's, and found out the same thing: Nobody wants to buy em. It sucks when you park cadywhompus in a ditch and find that you can't get your doors open... They also just flat friggin SUCK in their on road driving dynamics. Body roll, pitch and squat, just not what you'd expect from the big H.
O.K. Rant Over.
For those of you that don't know, I sell Fords, but seriously, that has nothing to do with it.
QUIT MOCKING ME! (said in the voice of stewie from The Family Guy)
My first brand-new motorsickle was a '92 KLR (250). Rode the pee out of it, then sold it to my best friend. He beat it like a rented mule. Rode it hard, put it away wet, fastidiously told it how ugly and stupid it was. Now I'm thinking about buying it back. Still runs great, apart from some drooling around the float needle.
The problem that I (and anyone I've talked-to that dislikes it) have with the vehicle ISN'T that it's not a "real truck". Rather, it's because the Ridgeline is a USELESS truck - along with the Avalanche, that Nissan thingamajig, the Ford Explorer (new), etc.
It's even-more useless than the standard quad-cab pickups (which at least have some semblance of a bed), or even a "standard SUV".
You can't haul anything in the bed; you can't haul anything inside; it's worthless.
Dude... get in one, go down the road at about 45 mph, and wiggle the wheel back and forth a little, and the thing starts to pivot around it'a vertical axis like a 78 LTD... left/rignt/left transitions are just friggin spooky.
Anyway, most magazine articles (the Mighty C&D included) have a little bias. the Honda won cause it was the new thing on the block, and it was made Honda.
once again, look at their sales figures. they are an alternative to "Trucks". not a Truck.
"Ride" and "Driving Dynamics" are NOT the same thing. A Lincoln Town Car has a good ride. A BMW has good Driving Dynamics. They are cushy, and comfortable (I didn't like the 6- or 8-inch lip you have to get your foot over to get out of the vehicle, and other sniggly things...), and are great going down the road, but when you have to accelerate, brake, or turn, they suck. IMNSHO. (grin)
Further, the pure lies part is a little harsh, dontcha think? I was just describing my multiple experiences actually driving the things, experienced thru the critical eyes of someone that works in the industry, with particular attention payed to the specifics of the driving experience. True, I was looking for faults, but that does not change the fact that I found some shortfalls in the specific categories that I listed.
Go drive one, perform the routine that I described, and then let's compare notes. Just because Car and Driver put it #1 in the comparo does NOT make it bulletproof. They are entitled to their opinions, they just get paid for them, unlike me...
Once again, look at their sales figures.
And DAMN, Don't EVEN get me started on the new Tundra...
C&D is good for testing automobiles. As far as I'm concerned their evaluation of trucks is far too biased towards how they perform as cars. I'd be more interested in how well a Ridgeline hanles a half yard of topsoil. Oops. It can't handle any cargo, can it?
I do like C&D's standard for testing cargo capacity = number of cases of beer.
A friend of mine went and test drove a Tundra. He goes offroading a lot so he drove it to a nearby field and pressed the 4WD button. It refused to go into 4WD. He drove it back to the dealership and never looked back at it.
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