That video showed the bike & 911 riding together on the Nurburgring...
No way the rider can hang it all out when he's got a 3500+ lb car on the track with him, as well as all the minivans, etc.. that they pass during the video.
There are various articles in car magazines from time to time poppping up to prove that someone's $100,000 penis attachment is faster than a bike. Usually there is some car guy riding the bike.
The most interesting one was Kevin Schwantz riding the Gixxer 1000 and Z06 back to back last year in Motorcyclist. Schwantz has raced pro in both car & motorcycling racing. He turned in a time close to the SCCA record in the Corvette... he was so much faster on the Gixxer that they said he would be lapping the corvette every 10 laps. He was actually going way faster through the corners on the bike too, not just on the straights.
Basically if the rider is very good no car is going to beat an expert racer on a track unless it is an open wheel race car. (1500lbs, 600-900hp, lots of downforce) Open wheel race cars (CART, IRL, F1, etc..) will demolish a Superbike or GP bike. There will never be a street car with that kind of performance, as the downforce will cause it to get about 5mpg. Who knows at what point the cars are faster.. but it is nowhere near a street car. Maybe a Le Mans Prototype class car is faster? Maybe a GTS?
Think of it this way.. the car has four big tires. But they aren't THAT much bigger than the bike tires. At full cornering the car is transferring most of it's weight onto the two outside tires.
But most of all the important thing is the car + driver weigh 8-10x as much as the bike and rider do. There is no way to get around physics. The only way for the car to corner better than the bike is by having massive downforce. Many high end cars have neutral aerodynamic forces, but very few have significant downforce due to the drag it creates.
Ben
No way the rider can hang it all out when he's got a 3500+ lb car on the track with him, as well as all the minivans, etc.. that they pass during the video.
There are various articles in car magazines from time to time poppping up to prove that someone's $100,000 penis attachment is faster than a bike. Usually there is some car guy riding the bike.
The most interesting one was Kevin Schwantz riding the Gixxer 1000 and Z06 back to back last year in Motorcyclist. Schwantz has raced pro in both car & motorcycling racing. He turned in a time close to the SCCA record in the Corvette... he was so much faster on the Gixxer that they said he would be lapping the corvette every 10 laps. He was actually going way faster through the corners on the bike too, not just on the straights.
Basically if the rider is very good no car is going to beat an expert racer on a track unless it is an open wheel race car. (1500lbs, 600-900hp, lots of downforce) Open wheel race cars (CART, IRL, F1, etc..) will demolish a Superbike or GP bike. There will never be a street car with that kind of performance, as the downforce will cause it to get about 5mpg. Who knows at what point the cars are faster.. but it is nowhere near a street car. Maybe a Le Mans Prototype class car is faster? Maybe a GTS?
Think of it this way.. the car has four big tires. But they aren't THAT much bigger than the bike tires. At full cornering the car is transferring most of it's weight onto the two outside tires.
But most of all the important thing is the car + driver weigh 8-10x as much as the bike and rider do. There is no way to get around physics. The only way for the car to corner better than the bike is by having massive downforce. Many high end cars have neutral aerodynamic forces, but very few have significant downforce due to the drag it creates.
Ben
He flamed me for thinking the rider was a wus. I would be a wus too if I might get hit by a car. I am sure he is a great rider without the car cutting him off.
