[Abe_Froman]

Well, I've never been to South Africa...

But given what I've heard about crime there, I'm sure that bikes lacking license plates is one of their lesser concerns. Crime rates in the areas in which riders like to ride, in the U.S. anyway, seem to be low enough that police feel that one of their primary jobs is to catch motorists breaking traffic laws. If only S.A. would allow their law-abiding citizens access to weapons (all the bad guys there already have them), crime might drop to the point that riding without your Orwellian vehicle I.D. tag might again become a serious crime. What have they got to lose? It's only worked in every place it's been tried in the U.S.

Disclaimer: I think most would agree that England has probably has more Gestapo-like traffic enforcement than America. Their riders do run a higher risk in my opinion.

 

[Abe_Froman]

Maybe by ignoring simple economics,

you can come to the tried-and-failed, idiot Marxist conclusions that you have.

If you are at all familiar with the rules governing the presedential elections, you would realize that the popular vote is not the method by which the presidency is decided. Unfortunately for AlGore, the electoral college gives the decision to each state independently. By the way, the so-called "corrupt" election process in Florida was put in place by Democrats. The Supreme court properly ignored the popular vote.

Funny how you compare George Bush with King George the second, when it is Gore that promotes the same kind of high-tax, gun-confiscating polices that that caused the colonists to revolt against the king.

 

[Abe_Froman]

Why do I even bother?

How can we argue with such a social and economic whiz as yourself? Peek your head out from Marx's manifesto for a second and take a look at the real world, . South Dakota is has one of (if not the) lowest median income in the United States, and one of the lowest crime rates as well. The observable evidence completely debunks your theory. South Africa has steadily placed higher and higher restrictions on weapons ownership and use, and has seen a coorespondingly higher crime rate.

P.S. We do not live in a democracy. We live in a representative republic.

 

[Abe_Froman]

So... Now it's population density?

Just a minute ago it was jealousy that caused crime. "Proletariat vs. Burgeoisie" or something like that? Never mind that the "underclass" in the U.S. is richer than they have ever been. Something like 95% of people on welfare own a TV. 40% own two cars. And they're complaining? If they are, then they're the problem. What difference does it make how much somebody else has? Are you helping to foster simple jealousy and greed? Is it now OK to want something that somebody else has, and ask the government to take it away from them and give it to you?

Oh, I forgot. It's population density that causes crime now. Of course, Japan would pretty much debunk that theory as well, though the police may search your house and arrest you at any time for any reason.

 

[Abe_Froman]

Re: So... Now it

Just click on my name in one of my posts and you can send me a message to my normal email address via MO.

 

[Abe_Froman]

Fabulous...

I've wanted to have something like that ever since I saw some kind of "20 20" report on stolen cars. One car shop had installed a mechanism on a Ferrari that slid the license plate to the side behind the bodywork, revealing a strobe light. All this was connected to the car alarm. I'd just like to have the little dissapearing license plate trick.

 

[Abe_Froman]

I agree...

I was doing a cool 70MPH on interstate 94 in Wisconsin, when a WHP trooper passed me doing at *least* 20 MPH faster, with no cherries on. I see local cops here in Minneapolis (especially in my suburb of Bloomington) routinely exceed the limit by more than enough to recieve a ticket if you happen to be a taxpayer doing the same thing. I also had the great misfortune to live on a road that was the subject of a crackdown by local cops, who set up a lidar trap once or twice a week for about two months. They managed to get me once on the way to work. I was so mad that I called the police station and yelled at some hapless jerk cop on the line for five minutes. Oh, well, whattya gonna do? Except write a letter explaining why I'll vote the police chief out next term... My letter's already drafted.

 

[Abe_Froman]

whoops...

I guess MO may have changed things up a bit. You used to be able to request to send a message to someone, and MO would send it to the private (legitimate) address they have on file. Send me a note at [email protected] (two underscores there.)

 

[Abe_Froman]

That's not really accurate....

As stated by my good patriot CBR1000F, the areas of the US that have the most restrictive gun laws tend to be areas with the highest crime rates. Chicago, New York, L.A., D.C., and Minneapolis for example. Our country can only be considered armed to the teeth (compared with most other countries) if you consider simply owning a gun to equal the state of being armed. 18 states still do not allow people to carry their guns in public. If the gun is at home, you're not armed.

The United States DOES have one of the lowest burglary rates in the world. Why? Ask any felon. They'll tell you that breaking into a house in the U.S. is the way to get shot, especially at night. Burglars here will spend a lot of time "casing" a house to ensure that nobody is home before breaking in.

In every state with previously restrictive laws regarding the concealed carry of weapons, after the restrictions were changed to allow any non-felonious qualified individual to carry, the crime rate has dropped. Criminals themselves say that their greatest fear is running into an armed victim, not the cops.

How about the town of Kennesaw, Georgia?

In 1982, their city council passed a resolution requiring all heads of household to posses a firearm to "protect the safety, security, and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants." All across the country, people predicted blood to run in the streets and shootings in the homes. None of it came to pass, but their crime rate dropped by 89%, making it the lowest crime rate of any city that size in the entire country. After the initial drop, their crime rate has remained at the same low level for the last 16 years.

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"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under

omnipotent moral busybodies." --C.S. Lewis

 

[Abe_Froman]

Another victory for America!!

Now let's see if we can get Zionist (living under freedoms bought and paid for with American blood, no doubt) to shut his/her big mouth too!

 

[Abe_Froman]

What was this about again?

Oh, yeah, South Africa! (lol)

 

[Abe_Froman]

While that may be true,

it also makes me quite angry that he is probably voting for the socialists (masqerading as democrats) that would take my guns away and effectively enslave me in servitude to the state.