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Some Like It Hot

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Yeah, but can you dip one of your handgrips in your coffee to warm it up?

Nice write-up and b!tchin' photos! Thanks!

This article should be of great help to our brethren that live in less tropical climes. It's also useful to anyone that wants to hook up a relay operated accessory.
 

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Yay. Great. It's almost 90 outside. Can somebody come up with something for to keep my nuts from getting roasted when they land on that black seat that's been cooking in the sun for hours? If they can make those ice chests that run on 12vdc with low amps, a seat with cooling coils doesn't seem all that farfetched.

There's money to be made here I tell you. Big money.
 

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The Jim Davis that runs Eastern Beaver - 'zat the same Jim Davis that used to own Motomorphic/Hawk Connection?

BTW - Nice writeup, well thought out, clearly illustrated.
 

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Yo Ken,
I did find a product used to cool a baby seat that is about the right size:
Baby Bee Cool - Car Seat Coolerpad

It uses reusable ice packs and supposedly keeps a baby seat cool for ten hours. Granted, that is more than you need as I am sure you haven't worked more than four hours in a single stretch in your life. Then again, it could be useful for long sessions at the bar, but would ten hours be enough? If you could stuff a few more beers into the seat and it kept them cool long after last call at the bar then I would say it represents a solution.

Anyhoo, I think the Babybeecool will sell much better than a product I designed years ago- the infamous Infantsizzler. Still waiting for phone calls on that one.

As for active cooling using DC power, there we must turn to the automotive world. There is no reason you can't order a cooling seat designed for cars and slap it over the seat of your bike. Sure, those cooling seats suck more amps than a microwave at a Seven Eleven which is offering a manager's special on Macho Grande Burritos, but those are the break(er)s.

If your pockets are really deep, then consider this solution that Uncle Sugar funded:
New Product Research and Development, Engineering Innovation and Technology, New Equipment Design and Development - Foster-Miller

Back in the day (early 70s) we used to use a very advanced technology to keep ourselves from being branded by vinyl seats on a hot summer day. We called it- the Towel®. We draped the Towel® over our bench seats and climbed in with impunity. Of course we then slapped our seatbelts on and screams erupted as we writhed in agony as the GM emblem was seared into our youthful hides.

Good times, they were. Good times.
 

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"Infants, roasting on the open fire,
Barbeque sauce, dripping from their toes..."

Yeah, the towel is my high tech solution too. I swipe the hotel pool towels with the blue stripe and use them...then the lawn guys steal them from me when they come through the parking lot.

There are some "Half Covers" for sale that might work; if they're quick and easy to put on, and get small so I don't have to install the Givi Airbrakes for every ride. In addition to keeping the seat temps under 300F, I'd like to keep that new paint shiny as long as possible. The ideal solution would be a lightweight nylon cover just big enough to fit over the fairing in the front and the rack in the back, and go about 1/3 the way down. No need to be waterproof, just to provide shade.
 

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Howdy 'Hawk,

Jim Davis of Eastern Beaver is not the same as Jim Davis of Motomorphic. They don't even appear to be Doppelgangers. If they were, of course, at least one would speak fluent German.
 

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Back in the day (early 70s) we used to use a very advanced technology to keep ourselves from being branded by vinyl seats on a hot summer day. We called it- the Towel®. We draped the Towel® over our bench seats and climbed in with impunity. Of course we then slapped our seatbelts on and screams erupted as we writhed in agony as the GM emblem was seared into our youthful hides.

Good times, they were. Good times.
You used Seatbelts back in the early '70s? Man, what was wrong with you?

Didn't you know it was a Scientifically Proven Fact back then that if you put one O' them things on, then crashed, you'd DIE when the buckle jammed and you'd either Drown or Burn to death, trapped screaming the whole time?
 

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I was just wonderin'. 'Cuz I hadn't heard anything from him in like, years. Last moto I saw he had built was this Python-Skin-Covered Triumph Bobber that was cool as Hell.
 

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Yo Ken,

The !Kung tribe (the ones who speak in clicks and clacks) of Southern Africa has a cool term for the young men of their tribe. They call them "shade experts".

Anyway, I was just being snarky and jealous about the idea of 90 degree temperatures. It gets that hot here. It happens at least once a century.

I think a few of those umbrella girls from Moto GP races are the true solution.
 

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The seatbelts on old cars sure did leave a lot to be desired. I loved the separate lap belt/shoulder (neck?) belt arrangement that many cars had.

If the seatbelts didn't get you then the metal dashboard certainly would.

On the upside the cigarette lighters on 70's cars would work underwater, so at least you could enjoy a healthy unfiltered camel or two as the water ominously swirled around your waist. You could struggle against the inevitable, but why bother? Those camels sure were smooth...
 

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Yo Ken,

The !Kung tribe (the ones who speak in clicks and clacks) of Southern Africa has a cool term for the young men of their tribe. They call them "shade experts".

Anyway, I was just being snarky and jealous about the idea of 90 degree temperatures. It gets that hot here. It happens at least once a century.

I think a few of those umbrella girls from Moto GP races are the true solution.
My gloating is over. It's going to be close to freezing here tonight. Unlike some of our pals here, riding in anything under 60F is out of the question for me. My blood is way to thin... However, by the end of the week, we should be back to at least 70 or so.
 

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My gloating is over. It's going to be close to freezing here tonight. Unlike some of our pals here, riding in anything under 60F is out of the question for me. My blood is way to thin... However, by the end of the week, we should be back to at least 70 or so.
You Florida guys just can't deal with temps that the rest of the states have to deal with, huh? It's going to be in the high teens tonight and it won't get above 50 until Sunday. 1 good leather jacket, pair of thermo undies and my Alpinestar Drystars and who needs the heated grips at that point? Everytime I turn my heated grips on my hands are sweating within 20mins. Seems like a nice add-on but for me they just aren't worth wet hands. Too many good "cold" gloves out there to choose from. Anyway- hope all of y'all are having a great New Year so far. Ken- call when it's warm enough to ride. ;-)
 

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The seatbelts on old cars sure did leave a lot to be desired. I loved the separate lap belt/shoulder (neck?) belt arrangement that many cars had.

If the seatbelts didn't get you then the metal dashboard certainly would.

On the upside the cigarette lighters on 70's cars would work underwater, so at least you could enjoy a healthy unfiltered camel or two as the water ominously swirled around your waist. You could struggle against the inevitable, but why bother? Those camels sure were smooth...
Winston tastes Good, like a Cigarette Should!

Yeah, my Roadrunner has that funky setup - has these clips on the headliner to "store" the shoulder belt. It looks cool, but the only thing that ever worked worth a damn was the keyhole-slot to attach it to the lap belt.

I nearly got a ticket from some nosegold-minin' Sheriff's Deputy at a Sobriety Checkpoint over that thing once - he started screamin' at me about not havin' my seatbelt on and all that crap, when I calmed him down a bit and went "click" and unfastened the lap belt then held out the end to him..........

Guess he'd never seen one before.
 

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My brother used to have a '68 GTX that had those belts. I don't remember that the belts had any give to them. If you dropped your can of Miller Hig...I mean, if you dropped your copy of Ladies Home Journal you had to unclip your shoulder belt to retrieve said item.

Those belts are a thing of the past. How can you rummage under the front seat while you are bombing down the highway in your SUV O'Death without some give in the shoulder belt? Progress!
 

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Dearest Sachi,

Special thanks for expanding my vocabulary. I get the sensation that as the cold years pass my vocabulary is shriveling. I am sure you can barely imagine the kicks I got out of adding Orchiectomy to my sack of words. I don’t know when I will get the opportunity to pull it out and use it, however.

In many ways, I have only yet begun to scratch the surface of the English language. Indeed, my choice of words could be considered quite pathetically lopsided towards the plebian. Further, when it comes to the fine art of grammar, I am certain it is obvious that grammar was never really my bag. Sweat and toil can only take me so far. All too often- at the end of the day -my participles are still left dangling.
 

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Yeah, my Grammar was an Old Bag too. But she sure could bake Cookies!
 
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