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Can't they just make a spin-off station for just Nascar? Then Speed could have every other type of racing. I personally do not get the appeal of Nascar. It is so boring watching four hours of driving in circles and races being decided in the pits. I know die-hard Nascar fans that purposely tape races so they can fast forward through most of the race. I tape motorcycle races so I can fast-forward through comercials.
 

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Channels having spin off channels is not a new thing. The money they get from Honda's advertising machine alone should keep them in business. If they made a spin off channel they might increase their revenew. We get our non-Nascar programming, the other 5 million get their Nascar 24/7 uninterrupted by that annoying good racing. Just like MTV, VH1, and MTV2. There are many, many other forms of racing besides MC racing and the combined viewship would easily sustain a network. We're talking cable here. Not to mention you don't have to just watch one channel.



BTW, KPaul finally left so you really don't have to be abrasive to everyone else. I have a fully functioning brain, as do most everyone else you disagree with and attack here.
 

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Noone would disaggree that an all Nascar channel would be hugely successful, but a channel with other types of racing will not die just because Nascar is big here. Like I said before VH1, MTV, BET, and MTV2 all have found viewership and most of those viewers probably watch more than just one of those channels too. I believe that I also said other forms of racing not just motorcycle racing. I am not advocating an all motorcycle channel.



Yes you are extremely abrassive. Read about any post you made with reguards to performance increases from different exhaust pipes. I think others like myself don't post as much as they probably would because you and few others jump down everyone's throats for stating their opinions and experiences.
 

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I'm glad we have you hear to point out everyone else's bullshyt. I'd hate to think we would have to figure it out on our own.



I have feeling you're just going to keep disagreeing and saying the same thing so you can wear me out and you'll get the last word.



You stated your opinion as to the impossibility of all other racing other than nascar being able to stand on its own as being a no-brainer. I have a brain and a different opinion. Nascar is the most watched racing in this country but it is far from the only racing watched in this country.
 

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No they didn't. It started with MTV, which had no audience because noone ever just played music videos 24 hrs. a day. All of the other channel came later when it was realized that enough people liked different types of music and music programming. People do watch Vh1 and MTV and maybe even CMT. Not just one or the other. There is no flaw in this anology. It also is not the only example of company stating other channels for a particular audience. It was just the most prominent exmaple I could think of.



Indy car used to be the most watched racing in this country. Nascar used to just be for the ********, but now it's mainstream. Tastes change.



I have never ever said have a motorcycle only channel. Stop pigeon-holing. There's world-rally, f-1, Drag racing of all sorts, snow-mobile racing, luge, semi racing, how-to-show (two guys garage) etc.,etc, etc, and all types of motorcycle racing. There is enough audience with all of these combined. I cannot prove it with any statistics and noone else can disprove with any statistics because A: they don't exist and B: just because you prefer one type of racing doesn't mean you'll never watch other types.



He implied people who want a separate channel or just at least coverage during a better time slot have no brains. This is extremely mild as compared to other postings over the years that I have seen him and other make, but still abraisive. I really not a let's hold hands and sing songs kind of guy, but if I post anything, and I mean anything, some smart-alic has to either insult or at least start a debate. Most of the time it is the S.O.S. Read any message board here that someone posted a question on how to do something to or with their bike. There are far more useless, often completely off topic, replies than actual useful answers. Aren't these the same reason everyone is happy KPaul isn't here anymore. I know it is for me.
 

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I disagree. They have not ever had a separate nascar channel and then most other racing on a different channel. Nascar is just a way to get more money for speed no doubt. Another channel for the rest of their programming would do just fine. Look at how many very narrowly focused cable channels exist. We're talking about having a channel with every other type of racing, but nascar, since it would have it's own channel 24/7. I'm tired of hearing how motorcycling alone can't carry a channel. It probably can't, but I serious just can't believe that all other racing combined can't carry a cable channel. I really can't believe that more Americans watch the BBC on a regular basis than would watch non-nascar racing and automotive how-to shows.
 

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Thank you. We made the same point, but you much more elequently than I. I'm sure hooters does better business than any other wings place, but there still are other wings places in business. Of course none of them have had their own airlines.
 

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He managed to make a point, not one I totally buy, without saying the opposite view was a no brainer. You seem to rarely be able to do the same. If more people felt welcome here maybe there would be more subscriptions and advertising and we would get more content, not that the content on bikes, gear, and rides isn't excellent. More how-tos, would kind of nice though. I'm always looking to learn...



I never said you were an A-hole. That would be hypocritical.
 
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