[Bob_in_NJ]

It's a few ruining it for the many.

What the residents are doing is working and keeping some motorcyclists away but unfortunately it's the responsible riders who are steering clear. The squids will stay and just make things tougher for them until something drastic happens like a motorcycle ban. If the residents were to work with local motorcycle organizations instead of harassing riders, they might get more accomplished.

 

[mscuddy]

It's been that way for a few years now. The week-ends are hell. Try US 79 that end up in Julian, not too many cars or squids on the weekdays.



The ride from Mesa Grande to Ramona is pretty much open on the weekdays. Wach out for rocks.

 

[seruzawa]

localized overpopulation sucks.

Yet another reason I left SoCal in '82. Sure my riding season is only ~7 months. But I've got scads of good empty roads in easy distance now.

The fact that I get to see performers like Leo Kotke, Dave Mason and The World's Greatest Boogie Blues Band - Canned Heat - for free helps too.

 

[longride]

Re: localized overpopulation sucks.

Can you get tix for the Osmonds and Debbie Boone? Two top box office smashes in Utah.

 

[4940]

Re: localized overpopulation sucks.

You probably won't be seeing Dave Mason again any time soon. Rumor has it he will be doing community service cleaning up a couple hundred miles of river bank in the mid west. VWW

 

[Buzglyd]

Re: localized overpopulation sucks.

I think you mean Dave Matthews. Nice to know those self-appointed "stweards of the environment" are flinging their shyt anywhere they please.

 

[Buzglyd]

Mesa Grande is a great road. Also S1 and S2 once the desert cools down. The good thing is the squids will never be farther than 50 miles from home. If you're willing to ride a little farther, good roads abound.

 

[4940]

Re: localized overpopulation sucks.

Oops. VWW

 

[Buzglyd]

Re: localized overpopulation sucks.

You're showing your age with the Dave Mason comment though!

"We just disagreee...ooooh ooooh ohhhh"

 

[4940]

Re: localized overpopulation sucks.

Oh, now I remember! I actually did inhale. VWW

 

[seruzawa]

Re: localized overpopulation sucks.

The Dead Goat Saloon puts on good blues bands all the time. Haven't seen Donny and Marie there, though.

After the big fix of Canned Heat last week I'm good for a couple of weeks yet. I'll let you know when Donny's up next. Seeing as you're such a fan, you keeping up on them and all.

 

[seruzawa]

Re: localized overpopulation sucks.

Whoever. Is he going to team up with Algore to clean the toxic dump of old 55 gallon barrels on the Gore family retreat?

 

[seruzawa]

Re: localized overpopulation sucks.

Everybody already knew that.

 

[sarnali]

Re: localized overpopulation sucks.

Gonna' have to haul away those ol Fairlanes and LTD's up on blocks outta' there first.

 

[sarnali]

Re: localized overpopulation sucks.

I didn't know Canned Heat was still around.

Let's see, good bands, good roads, you get to have more than one wife, Utah's sounding better all the time.

Can you get Guinness and Bushmill's there? I know you've got at least one Triumph shop.

 

[sarnali]

Re: "Were" great roads.

See that's the differance between Washington riders and California Riders. There's no way in hell I'd post good roads on the 'net, even though Washington has so many.

Case in point I was on one of my favorite S.W. Wa. twisties a few weeks ago and came upon a lumbering pile of HD's, I'd neglected to bring my 9 mil. along, but I did manage to spook few of them off the edge.......... Not too hard with a 60mph closing speed advantage, still it would have been unneccessary if people would have kept it to themselves.

 

[19616]

If you can read, the secret's out.

Easy, there, big boy.

Every good road in Washington and British Columbia has been thoroughly documented and rated by the "Great Motorcycling Roads" people from Vancouver.

The WA book is a must-have book, by motorcyclists, for motorcyclists, if you live in WA, ID, MT, or CA.

So it's a good news/bad news thing. The good news is, anyone with 45 bucks and a brain can find some pretty cool roads.

The bad news is, anyone with 45 bucks and a brain can find some pretty cool roads.

 

[longride]

Re: localized overpopulation sucks.

Yeah I can't get enough of them. Front row seats and I would owe you big time.

 

[35377]

I was stationed in San Diego in 1976 & 1977. I spent most of my time at sea defending our country from the Communist Threat, but still managed to fall in love with the motorcycle roads in the area. I was young and dumb at the time (as opposed to old and dumb now) and would just set off on my trusty 360 Honda and end up wherever. I was never disappointed. One day I just stumbled onto Palomar Mountain, and was astounded that a public road like that even existed. Perfect asphalt, curvaceous, great views, no cops and virtually no traffic. Quite a difference from the roads I grew up with in Central Florida.



Sorry to hear that it’s become crowded with cops, geezers and squids. What a loss to those that never experienced it back in the day.



By the way, did anybody else notice that the only two accidents cited in the story did NOT make a connection to sportbikes? The first accident wasn’t even on the mountain and involved a Honda Magna (maybe a sportbike compared to my 360 Honda, but certainly not by today’s standards). The second one may have involved a sportbike, but the only description of a bike was that of the Harley that was hit when a "motorcyclist" crossed into oncoming traffic. C’mon Ms. Tangonan, tie it all together, please.

 

[Buzglyd]

Re: If you can read, the secret's out.

Clement Salvadori's "Motorcycle Journeys through California" is an excellent resource for a sport-touring type.

But don't tell anyone.