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Just out of curiosity, how many of you guys have 240VAC power at your house?

The quick chargers use either 220 or 240; I don't think my neighborhood is wired for 3 phase power, let alone my house.
 

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Just out of curiosity, how many of you guys have 240VAC power at your house?

The quick chargers use either 220 or 240; I don't think my neighborhood is wired for 3 phase power, let alone my house.
Most residential homes are wired with 220v single-phase service (110v on each phase, across two-phases. Yes, that is still referred-to as "single-phase 220v") in a 100-amp or 200-amp service-panel. You have 3-phase power going to your neighborhood - via the branch-feeder - which may vary anywhere from ~7500v to 30,000v, depending on where you live and the way your Utility handles your distribution. You may receive phase "A" and "B", your neighbor to one side gets phase "A" and "C", and the neighbor to the other side phase "B" and "C", and so-on.

That's another reason why sometimes parts of a neighborhood can lose power, and parts retain it for awhile - although that phase-load-imbalance usually results in a cascade-failure of the rest of the grid supplying that branch, and eventually everybody "loses" power.
 

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Perfect Thread Title

Luckily the Tesla cars have a data logging system. They did a dump on it and found that the guy simply ran out the charge by taking side trips and failing to plug it in to charge overnight. Musk said "if you run a gas car out of fuel, who's fault is that?"

In their rebuttal to Musk's comments, the Times said "The bottom line is that you can't treat an electric car the same way you do a gas car." F'ing geniuses, they are.
 

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Wow the data logs on the "S" show even more than just careless handling of the car's charging:

"Elon Musk, the chief executive of the Tesla car company, strongly disagrees about what happened. In a blog post Wednesday night, he used the driving logs to state that Mr. Broder misrepresented what happened on the test drive.
"Our Model S never had a chance with John Broder," he wrote

Mr. Musk said that, along the way, Mr. Broder unplugged the car before it was fully charged, drove faster than he claimed and drove around in circles to deliberately run down the battery.

And, he added, "He simply did not accurately capture what happened and worked very hard to force our car to stop running." Mr. Musk released screen shots of the car driving logs to reinforce his points."
 

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Mr. Musk is not all he's cracked up to be. The car isn't either.

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These e-car manufacturers and promoters have simply been lying all along. They, and the lackeys who push their fraudulent products, belong in jail. Looks like Obama is as good at picking winners as the rest of the govt fools who keep "investing" our money.
 

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These e-car manufacturers and promoters have simply been lying all along. They, and the lackeys who push their fraudulent products, belong in jail. Looks like Obama is as good at picking winners as the rest of the govt fools who keep "investing" our money.
How Dare you mock our Messiah, suh! I shall endeavor to meet you upon the Field of Honor come the Dawn!
 

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Luckily the Tesla cars have a data logging system. They did a dump on it and found that the guy simply ran out the charge by taking side trips and failing to plug it in to charge overnight. Musk said "if you run a gas car out of fuel, who's fault is that?"

In their rebuttal to Musk's comments, the Times said "The bottom line is that you can't treat an electric car the same way you do a gas car." F'ing geniuses, they are.
The Times lying for a sensational article?

The hell you say!
 

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The Times lying for a sensational article?

The hell you say!
Someone's lying but I don't think it's the guy who wrote the article. Other moto-journalists have had the same experience with this electric shyt. And it's all shyt.

But the True Believers will continue to ignore all evidence as they bow to their nutty left-wing dogma. May as well throw the money at perpetual motion machines. The results will be identical.

Some Hollywood nut already made a movie "proving" that electric cars are victim of some shadowy conspiracy, not their own terrible inadequacies. Sad how insane the advocates of this dead end technology are. The ones who aren't pocketing millions of taxpayers dollars, that is. Those are simply suckers.... born by the second these days.

To push e-cars is to perpetrate a fraud. It's time for mass arrests and detention of these lunatics.
 

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Someone's lying but I don't think it's the guy who wrote the article. Other moto-journalists have had the same experience with this electric shyt. And it's all shyt.

But the True Believers will continue to ignore all evidence as they bow to their nutty left-wing dogma. May as well throw the money at perpetual motion machines. The results will be identical.

Some Hollywood nut already made a movie "proving" that electric cars are victim of some shadowy conspiracy, not their own terrible inadequacies. Sad how insane the advocates of this dead end technology are. The ones who aren't pocketing millions of taxpayers dollars, that is. Those are simply suckers.... born by the second these days.

To push e-cars is to perpetrate a fraud. It's time for mass arrests and detention of these lunatics.
Plus they know exactly how he drove it and where he drove it and when he charged it.

No wonder Zero loves them.
 

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Someone's lying but I don't think it's the guy who wrote the article. Other moto-journalists have had the same experience with this electric shyt. And it's all shyt.
So how do you explain Motor Trend, one of the most respected auto jounals in country, naming the S their "Car of the Year?" Or Automobile Magazine, a less-known, but equally well-respected journal, also naming it Car of the Year? Or my December copy of Car and Driver, that had a 5-page feature story on the S that had nothing but praise for it, not as an electric car, but as an outstanding automobile overall?

Let me guess: Obama has targeted them with his Communist Mind Control Rays, leaving them in a zombie state under his direct control when they type their articles. It's so obvious now...
 

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To push e-cars is to perpetrate a fraud. It's time for mass arrests and detention of these lunatics.
Yeah, but what would they 'charge' them with!?

HAR! I kill me!

My buddy called me yesterday, and said he had just seen the "Ultimate Optimist".

He saw a Smart car with a receiver hitch!
 

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Yeah, but what would they 'charge' them with!?

HAR! I kill me!

My buddy called me yesterday, and said he had just seen the "Ultimate Optimist".

He saw a Smart car with a receiver hitch!
Like Pistorius' lawyer said about pleading not guilty? "You don't have a leg to stand on!"

I have a receiver hitch on the Mini that gets some comments. It's for my bike rack and a carry-all tray. Probably the same for the Smart car.
 

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So how do you explain Motor Trend, one of the most respected auto jounals in country, naming the S their "Car of the Year?" Or Automobile Magazine, a less-known, but equally well-respected journal, also naming it Car of the Year? Or my December copy of Car and Driver, that had a 5-page feature story on the S that had nothing but praise for it, not as an electric car, but as an outstanding automobile overall?

Let me guess: Obama has targeted them with his Communist Mind Control Rays, leaving them in a zombie state under his direct control when they type their articles. It's so obvious now...
Cycle World once named the Honda Rune motorcycle of the year.

It's respected too.

They're trying to sell magazines Kenneth.
 

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And the NY Times is trying to sell newspapers. I'll take the data readout over the reporter's anecdotes any day.
A left wing rag is trying to sell papers by saying electric cars suck?

You had your chance and bought a 20 year old replica. That's all we really needed to know.

I hope Daryl Hannah blames the next hurricane on you.
 
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