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"Lambert, .... fell in love with the dark and sinister 2007 Harley-Davidson Sportster XL1200N Nightster"
There's the problem right there... People with such horrible eyesight on motorcycles!
All kidding aside, this is a VERY GOOD THING; Not just 100,000 new riders but 100,000 new riders with proper training! Excellent!!
Bikervince
There's the problem right there... People with such horrible eyesight on motorcycles!
All kidding aside, this is a VERY GOOD THING; Not just 100,000 new riders but 100,000 new riders with proper training! Excellent!!
Bikervince
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How about the fact that the new MSF BRC is a joke and doesn't teach anything other than "This is the gas, it makes you go. This is the clutch, is makes you start going. This is the brakes, it makes you stop going." Seriously, unless they are taking a "Street Riding Skills" class rather than a "Parking lot Maneuvers" class, it really doesn't make a difference other than putting more confidence in bad drivers.
Ah, c'mon -- you know that there is no such a thing as a "perfect" training program. Do you expect grade school graduates to be ready to perform vascular surgery or run General Electric?
The BRC is designed to show untrained new riders good basic techniques, not high-skill performance; a starting place, not the pinnacle of performance art. From there on, practice must take over.
How would you teach new riders to cope with heavy traffic, if you were in charge? That is, without killing them or anyone else.
The BRC is designed to show untrained new riders good basic techniques, not high-skill performance; a starting place, not the pinnacle of performance art. From there on, practice must take over.
How would you teach new riders to cope with heavy traffic, if you were in charge? That is, without killing them or anyone else.
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It's still better than self-training, which is how I started. Luckily I've taken a number of courses since and learned a lot, every time - even in "basic" courses.
Should a basic course be the only training you take? Of course not. But it's a good base to start from, and since they are typically enjoyable, encourages you to take more advanced courses later.
Should a basic course be the only training you take? Of course not. But it's a good base to start from, and since they are typically enjoyable, encourages you to take more advanced courses later.
I commend Harley. Great Job! This is an example of a company be out front on a issue.
[*] The AMA should follow this lead and propose mandatory helmet laws, a tiered licensing system, mandatory rider education and frequent rider testing...
Now if HD could just put a proper engine in the Buell Firebolt I would become a customer.
[*] The AMA should follow this lead and propose mandatory helmet laws, a tiered licensing system, mandatory rider education and frequent rider testing...
Now if HD could just put a proper engine in the Buell Firebolt I would become a customer.
I'm beginning to see your point about tiered licensing. I was smart enough to buy a 400 and ride that for twelve years before moving up to a 600, and I've never crashed. But some clowns will go out and buy a 600 Supersport as their first bike, crash it, and raise insurance rates for the rest of us responsible riders. So, tiered licensing wouldn't have affected me, since I was already doing the responsible thing anyway, but it might have kept that moron from making riding more expensive for me or, better yet, kept that dipshyt from riding altogether since he would be barred from owning the "best" motorcycle right out of the gate.
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